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Most Likely Amnesty Clauses: Mehmet Okur

vslice02 said:
Understood, but it sounds like the new CBA will still contain a luxury tax system that actually imposes stiffer penalties depending on how far a team is over the cap. As the roster stands now - Utah has around $60 million committed to next season for 11 players - so Okur's contract is likely to cost the Miller's dearly if it's still on the books.
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Last year the tax kicked in at 70 million. It looks to me like Utah will have about 62 million committed with 11 players. Am I missing something? I mean besides the fact that numbers could change with the new CBA, is there something I'm overlooking?
 
YB85 said:
Just the fact that there is Raja Bell apparel is a surprise to me.
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I finally used up my Chucker J. Smiles jersey strips, I might as well start wiping my *** with Bell's. It's more expensive than toilet paper, but oh-so-gratifying.
 
Now that the amnesty clause is a reality, do you think the Jazz will use it, and will it be Memo -- seems he's playing fairly well now, though I haven't seen any of the games. Maybe someone might comment. Or will they amnesty Raja?
 
write4u said:
Now that the amnesty clause is a reality, do you think the Jazz will use it, and will it be Memo -- seems he's playing fairly well now, though I haven't seen any of the games. Maybe someone might comment. Or will they amnesty Raja?
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I could see us using it on Bell because he has two years left compared to Memo's one. Are we still over the luxury tax? If so, by how much?
 
Bell would be my #1 choice. Yes, Memo has a huge contract this year, but I actually like the dude. I can't stand Raja.
 
freakazoid said:
Last year the tax kicked in at 70 million. It looks to me like Utah will have about 62 million committed with 11 players. Am I missing something? I mean besides the fact that numbers could change with the new CBA, is there something I'm overlooking?
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What you are missing is the amnesia everyone is suffering from. You remember that $17 million went off the books when AK's contract expired, everyone else seems to have forgotten that.
 
The last thing the Jazz want to do right now is repeat the mistake they made with AK -- constraining their payroll so that they have to let players walk away. If they amnestied Okur just so they can sign a $7-$9 million free agent, then they will be forced to shed salary over the next three years to re-sign Hayward and Favors. Sure, Bell would be gone, but his salary won't be enough to re-sign both of them. So who else is going to walk? Millsap? Jefferson? Or do we let Favors or Hayward go? And how do we re-sign Kanter and Burks the following year?

Using the amnesty on Bell is the only move that makes any sense, because it frees up playing time for Burks and Hayward, and Bell has little value in a trade. But I think the Jazz value Bell's locker room presense too much to send him packing. (I hope I'm wrong!)
 
Ellipse said:
The last thing the Jazz want to do right now is repeat the mistake they made with AK -- constraining their payroll so that they have to let players walk away. If they amnestied Okur just so they can sign a $7-$9 million free agent, then they will be forced to shed salary over the next three years to re-sign Hayward and Favors. Sure, Bell would be gone, but his salary won't be enough to re-sign both of them. So who else is going to walk? Millsap? Jefferson? Or do we let Favors or Hayward go? And how do we re-sign Kanter and Burks the following year?

Using the amnesty on Bell is the only move that makes any sense, because it frees up playing time for Burks and Hayward, and Bell has little value in a trade. But I think the Jazz value Bell's locker room presense too much to send him packing. (I hope I'm wrong!)
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Both Harris and Jefferson will be gone by the time Favors and Hayward reach their Q/O years. That will be more than enough cap room to re-sign both of them.

I'd like to see Kanter and Burks play a game before I worry about re-signing them.

I seriously doubt The Jazz would have re-signed Bell if it wasn't for Jerry Sloan. With Sloan gone I see no point in retaining him. And other than jumping ship (for the second time) when things went bad I'm not sure what presence you're referring to.
 
I'd rather not sign anyone of notability. Just get Watson and a Dleague player. I would rather give the young guns time and suck, then get some veterans and be mediocre.
 
candrew said:
I seriously doubt The Jazz would have re-signed Bell if it wasn't for Jerry Sloan.
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I am looking forward to seeing how the coaching staff continues to lead following the era of favoring the appearance of hard work and character over actual on-court performance and potential.
 
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