On draft night. How do you use them in deals during the season when you don’t have them?See my post about picks being easy to acquire.
On draft night. How do you use them in deals during the season when you don’t have them?See my post about picks being easy to acquire.
I bet we could have traded joe ingles for 2 2nd round picks. Probably clarkson too. Maybe even butler.On draft night. How do you use them in deals during the season when you don’t have them?
We just traded Joe Ingles with two second round picks just to offload his salary. A second round pick represents $0 in a deal. It’s not as easy to make deals for second rounders when you’re taking back $10+M in salary.I bet we could have traded joe ingles for 2 2nd round picks. Probably clarkson too. Maybe even butler.
I see that we used 2nd round picks in a trade just few days ago. So if the jazz wanted holiday and all that was required was two 2nd round picks then it would appear that they could have got holiday. Maybe the jazz didn't want him. Maybe his team didn't want to trade him. Maybe his price was higher. IDK.On draft night. How do you use them in deals during the season when you don’t have them?
1. You can’t go to the store and buy picks. Most teams don’t sell their picks, and buyers don’t get to decide how that plays out.I think the Jazz believe that 2nd rounders are easy to pick up when they need them even if they just pay cash.
What if you didn't have the money but then went to the bank and got the money and then went to 7/11. Could you come out of 7/11 with something then? (This is all moot of course because the jazz had the money in this case)I can show up to 7/11 to buy something, but if I don’t have my wallet, they’re not giving me anything. I can certain get the money. That’s not a problem at all. Of course it’s easy to come up with $5. But unless I’m walking into 7/11 with $5, I’m coming out empty handed.
Our two second rounders were spoken for… because we were shopping them to salary dump Ingles.I see that we used 2nd round picks in a trade just few days ago. So if the jazz wanted holiday and all that was required was two 2nd round picks then it would appear that they could have got holiday. Maybe the jazz didn't want him. Maybe his team didn't want to trade him. Maybe his price was higher. IDK.
Incorrect. We traded joe ingles with two second round picks to acquire 2 players.We just traded Joe Ingles with two second round picks just to offload his salary. A second round pick represents $0 in a deal. It’s not as easy to make deals for second rounders when you’re taking back $10+M in salary.
I could, but it’s 11 pm on Saturday and the bank is closed. And they don’t have an ATM. They aren’t taking my IOU.What if you didn't have the money but then went to the bank and got the money and then went to 7/11. Could you come out of 7/11 with something then? (This is all moot of course because the jazz had the money in this case)
So you are saying that the jazz couldn't salary dump ingles and 2 picks in trade not involving the one we did? That was the only team and players we were allowed to go after with joe ingles expiring and picks? Weird rule but ok.Our two second rounders were spoken for… because we were shopping them to salary dump Ingles.
Yes, because we wanted salary savings more than we wanted Justin Holiday.Incorrect. We traded joe ingles with two second round picks to acquire 2 players.
Is it against league rules to trade joe ingles and 2 second round picks for justin holiday?
I would just go earlier to the one with an atm and use my atm card.I could, but it’s 11 pm on Saturday and the bank is closed. And they don’t have an ATM. They aren’t taking my IOU.
Maybe, maybe not. Literally impossible for you or I to know. I have heard literally hear zero talk about the jazz being interested in justin holiday. I heard they liked harrison barnes though. Is it possible that the jazz didn't want holiday even if he were free and saved us even more money?Yes, because we wanted salary savings more than we wanted Justin Holiday.
I’m saying that our priority was to offload salary. We used our seconds for that. We’re dumping all of our second rounders to drop salary, to the point where we have none left. I used Holiday as an example of how you couldn’t get a guy like that if you wanted if you don’t have the seconds. I’m not necessarily saying that was the move we needed to do. Just giving a recent example on how you hamstring yourself by throwing all these second rounders away and justifying how easy it is to obtain them on draft night.So you are saying that the jazz couldn't salary dump ingles and 2 picks in trade not involving the one we did? That was the only team and players we were allowed to go after with joe ingles expiring and picks? Weird rule but ok.
“Just buy”?Use the 2nd rounders to find role players? Cant they just buy those if they see a guy they think can be a role player. Doesn't seem like 2nd round picks are super difficult to acquire
Exactly. And in this situation, that represents keeping your seconds or obtaining future ones in some fashion.I would just go earlier to the one with an atm and use my atm card.
Read above. Us getting Holiday wasn’t specifically my point. It’s an example of something available that requires you to have the capital.Maybe, maybe not. Literally impossible for you or I to know. I have heard literally hear zero talk about the jazz being interested in justin holiday. I heard they liked harrison barnes though. Is it possible that the jazz didn't want holiday even if he were free and saved us even more money?
I have seen jazz buy 2nd rounders before. I have seen 2nd rounders thrown around like garbage too. Probably because they aint worth much. We got house without a second rounder. Ingles. Royce. wes matthews. etc etc.“Just buy”?
What pick? From who? For what price? Are you actually willing to spend that money? Is the guy you’re targeting even there? Would the Jazz even necessarily know a pick could be bought?
The reality is these things are super chaotic and a small number of 2nds change hands every year, usually at the back half of the 2nd round.