Murphy's Law says to shut the **** up, but realistically, this is correct.
Utes 2011 Football Discussion
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prodigy
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A senior leader like Crist is exactly the thing this team needs, can't really count on Wynn
7StraightIsGreat
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I've read the Crist rumors as well. Sounds like it's down to San Diego State, Wisconson and Utah. While watching a ND game this year I was listening to the announcers go on about the fact that Crist is still so well thought of by NFL scouts that he'd probably be a mid-round pick in the upcoming NFL draft. IMO that would be a dream scenario for Utah. Crist would allow the 2 talented freshman to redshirt and if Wynn is healthy he can hold a clipboard for his final year @ Utah.
If Crist is serious about upping his draft status, Utah should be the choice. The WR corps will be excellent with Devonte Christopher, Dres Anderson and Baylor transfer Josh Gordon. Having John White behind him will only lessen the pressure and he'd have a pretty good defense as well. Not sure he gets the exposure he'd want at SDSU and while Wisconson is a Big 10 school, they're so run heavy you'd have to wonder if he'd be able to do much there to improve his position in the draft.
It would also be awesome to see Utah getting a transfer QB not named Heaps.
SaltyDawg
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I honestly think Utah would have to be his first choice. San Diego State is probably a last choice. They're in a nobody conference that is about to fall apart with all the best teams leaving. San Diego State is also reportedly trying to leave and negotiating with the Big East (which itself is less than half a step above a nobody conference).
Wisconsin is in a big time conference, but they are a running team. Utah is also in a big time conference, but they are a passing team that is in desperate need of a QB. He's basically guaranteed the starting job, in one of the best QB conferences if not the single best QB conference. This is really a no brainer. If he comes back to school at all, Utah is the only team on that list who can provide exactly what he would be looking for. A guaranteed starting spot in a major conference, with a bunch of NFL caliber receivers, a very good RB, pretty good offensive line, an OC that has a history of making QBs look a lot better than they really are and even getting them Heisman awards, and possibly the best defense in the conference. Why would he choose San Diego State or Wisconsin over that?
Having said all of that, I don't care if he comes to Utah or not. I remember last year when Notre Dame was struggling with him as their starter, and then Notre Dame didn't lose another game all season after he got hurt. This year he flat out got benched. I just don't know if he is any better than Shreve/Hansen/Wilson. I guess with them being freshmen you don't know what to expect from them so it would be nice to have him around. But it's definitely not the end of the world if he doesn't come to Utah.
Wisconsin is in a big time conference, but they are a running team. Utah is also in a big time conference, but they are a passing team that is in desperate need of a QB. He's basically guaranteed the starting job, in one of the best QB conferences if not the single best QB conference. This is really a no brainer. If he comes back to school at all, Utah is the only team on that list who can provide exactly what he would be looking for. A guaranteed starting spot in a major conference, with a bunch of NFL caliber receivers, a very good RB, pretty good offensive line, an OC that has a history of making QBs look a lot better than they really are and even getting them Heisman awards, and possibly the best defense in the conference. Why would he choose San Diego State or Wisconsin over that?
Having said all of that, I don't care if he comes to Utah or not. I remember last year when Notre Dame was struggling with him as their starter, and then Notre Dame didn't lose another game all season after he got hurt. This year he flat out got benched. I just don't know if he is any better than Shreve/Hansen/Wilson. I guess with them being freshmen you don't know what to expect from them so it would be nice to have him around. But it's definitely not the end of the world if he doesn't come to Utah.
7StraightIsGreat
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I think Crist not working out at ND had more to do with the fact that he was a pro-style QB recruited by Charlie Wiess and was thrown into a spread offense mid-stream by the Brian Kelly hiring. I'm not saying that he would be the be-all, end-all for Utah should he come here, but I don't think he was on the sideline at ND for lack of talent or ability. Sometimes a square peg meets a round hole and needs to move on.
prodigy
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^ Judging from comments by notre dame fans on ESPN they do believe this to be true and that he was given a raw deal by Kelly. Irish fans love this guy and think he was a good leader and has a great arm...Apparently there are a lot of big time schools(Florida now mentioned along with Stanford), after this guy. I just hope he loves Chow being our OC and sees the open QB position in the pac-12 as a great opportunity.
SaltyDawg
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I guess I just haven't seen enough from Crist to get excited about the possibility of getting him.
I'm certainly not against getting him. I'd welcome just about anyone at this point. Hays sucks and Wynn is probably done, so we definitely need help at QB.
I'm just not praying that he comes to Utah, or even excited about the possibility. If he comes to Utah, fine, and if not that's fine too.
I know he's better than Hays. I don't know if he's better than Shreve, Wilson, or Hansen. Not saying he isn't better than those guys, just that I haven't seen enough of him to know. All I know about him is Notre Dame was a whole lot better without him. That can be due to him getting a raw deal, sure. And if he comes to Utah I'll certainly be rooting for him. I guess I'll cross that bridge when (if) I come to it.
I just can't bring myself to get excited about a guy who did nothing at best, sucked and hurt his team at worst, who might or might not decide to transfer to Utah. Maybe if we had no prospects at QB it would be different. But right now we have prospects that I'm already excited about who haven't proven to be disappointments at the college level yet.
If he does end up coming to Utah, then I'll probably watch some highlights and get excited about him. In fact, it's almost guaranteed that will happen if he comes to Utah. But I'm not going to get excited about the possibility that he might or might not choose Utah. He hasn't done enough at the college level to warrant it.
I'm certainly not against getting him. I'd welcome just about anyone at this point. Hays sucks and Wynn is probably done, so we definitely need help at QB.
I'm just not praying that he comes to Utah, or even excited about the possibility. If he comes to Utah, fine, and if not that's fine too.
I know he's better than Hays. I don't know if he's better than Shreve, Wilson, or Hansen. Not saying he isn't better than those guys, just that I haven't seen enough of him to know. All I know about him is Notre Dame was a whole lot better without him. That can be due to him getting a raw deal, sure. And if he comes to Utah I'll certainly be rooting for him. I guess I'll cross that bridge when (if) I come to it.
I just can't bring myself to get excited about a guy who did nothing at best, sucked and hurt his team at worst, who might or might not decide to transfer to Utah. Maybe if we had no prospects at QB it would be different. But right now we have prospects that I'm already excited about who haven't proven to be disappointments at the college level yet.
If he does end up coming to Utah, then I'll probably watch some highlights and get excited about him. In fact, it's almost guaranteed that will happen if he comes to Utah. But I'm not going to get excited about the possibility that he might or might not choose Utah. He hasn't done enough at the college level to warrant it.
Gyp Rosetti
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Not sure if it's been discussed here yet but what are people's thoughts here on the Georgia Tech bowl game? How do fans see it playing out?
SaltyDawg
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Should be a great game. Georgia Tech's strength is running the ball, Utah's strength is stopping the run. I'll give an early prediction and say Utah wins a close, low scoring game. Should be a good one though.
freakazoid
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Close game in the first half, then Utah rolls over them in the second half.
I'm not as optimistic. Georgia Tech runs the Air Force triple option and that always gave the Utes fits with AFA's players. GT has better backs so it could be interesting. Hopefully the corners can cover the occasional pass, because I can see Blechen and Rowe playing as linebackers a lot during the game.
Archie Moses
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Utah just lost to Colorado. I'm predicting they get destroyed by GT.
SaltyDawg
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I agree that Utah should be well prepared for the option. I am not too sure about Utah putting up 27 points though. I'm sure Georgia Tech will be well prepared for Utah's offense too (or lack thereof).
Who knows though? Maybe Chow will shock everyone by finally opening things up on offense.
It's hard to open things up when you can't throw the ball without reasonable fear of interception on every single passing possession.
prodigy
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Highlight video I put together for the 06 armed forces bowl..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1htJDJBdQ][/
Was looking for the bowl game vs. Navy since it was against a Paul Johnson team(didn't coach that game but still). Found this one instead, Eric Weddle and Louie Sakoda two of my fav all-time Utes. Would kill to have those guys again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ1htJDJBdQ][/
Was looking for the bowl game vs. Navy since it was against a Paul Johnson team(didn't coach that game but still). Found this one instead, Eric Weddle and Louie Sakoda two of my fav all-time Utes. Would kill to have those guys again.