The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[Gameface]

Russia is using conscripts to fight an unprovoked war of aggression? That tells you everything you might ever need to know about how much Putin cares about Russian lives. This war is about him and his ego, not Russia, not national security, nothing but his ego.

Russia admits conscripts have been fighting in Ukraine, despite Putin's previous denials | CNN

Russia's Ministry of Defense has confirmed that Russian military conscripts have been involved in the invasion of Ukraine and that some were taken prisoner by Ukrainian forces, just a day after President Vladimir Putin insisted conscripts were not part of the assault.

www.cnn.com

 

[RandyForRubio]

And yes, OB, we still get oil from the Keystone today. But not nearly as much per day as we could with the pipeline that was to be built. And with fuel prices, certainly at a much higher cost than what could and should have been.

 

[LogGrad98]

One Million!

Drill baby drill!

Pssh, be realistic. no more than 10k.

 

[Gameface]

Pssh, be realistic. no more than 10k.

Commie!

 

[LogGrad98]

I knew companies were pulling out of Russia but this kind of surprised me with McDonald's on the mix. 850 stores is decidedly not chump change. Wow.

That's a full 2% of global stores. Might not sound like much unless you understand the impact that can have on a business, not just in the bottom line, but in stock price.

The real statement there is that they will continue to pay the workers.

Reports are that this represents 9% of their total revenue. To give up the revenue and continue to incur the cost of labor, and presumably real estate, is nothing to sneeze at.

McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-Cola join corporate America’s exit from Russia

As the West rolls out more sanctions against Moscow for its war in Ukraine, another penalty joins the list: no more Big Macs for Russia.

finance.yahoo.com

McDonald’s closing all its stores in Russia is a big deal, even if it’s a little late

The significance holds weight, given the burger chain’s historical role in opening Russia up to Western culture after the Cold War.

www.fastcompany.com

 

[LogGrad98]

I didn't see if anyone else posted this but here is a running list of companies that have cut off business in one way or another in Russia as a result of their aggression in Ukraine. The few that stand out to me are McDonald's (see above post) and Visa and Mastercard. Imagine the impact if suddenly every card with a visa or mastercard logo stopped working. Not sure their "ceased operations in Russia" means they turned cards off, but that would be a hell of a statement. Could be worse for ordinary citizens though, but is that kind of thing enough to prompt any kind of action by the citizenry? The big question is, would any kind of action by the citizens do anything besides results in dead citizens. Damn this situation is bleak.

Over 1,000 Companies Have Curtailed Operations in Russia—But Some Remain

som.yale.edu

 

[Gameface]

I knew companies were pulling out of Russia but this kind of surprised me with McDonald's on the mix. 850 stores is decidedly not chump change. Wow.

That's a full 2% of global stores. Might not sound like much unless you understand the impact that can have on a business, not just in the bottom line, but in stock price.

The real statement there is that they will continue to pay the workers.

Reports are that this represents 9% of their total revenue. To give up the revenue and continue to incur the cost of labor, and presumably real estate, is nothing to sneeze at.

McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-Cola join corporate America’s exit from Russia

As the West rolls out more sanctions against Moscow for its war in Ukraine, another penalty joins the list: no more Big Macs for Russia.

finance.yahoo.com

McDonald’s closing all its stores in Russia is a big deal, even if it’s a little late

The significance holds weight, given the burger chain’s historical role in opening Russia up to Western culture after the Cold War.

www.fastcompany.com

Hopefully these are the kinds of things that will start to pull Russian's away from believing Russian state media and asking why all of this is happening. Of course many of them know because they access non-state media sources but the Russian version of the boomer watches a lot of TV news and thinks all this other info is just a bunch of MSM fake news while they happily sniff Putin's farts.

 

[fishonjazz]

It is a solution for the future that was stopped because Biden stopped it. Things generally aren’t fixed in a day, but if you don’t allow them to progress, they don’t get fixed at all. But yes, the pipeline stopped because of Biden. And like I said, it wouldn’t have changed what we have now, but it would in the future. Now if they decide to start it up again, it’s just that much delayed. So I’ll ask you, why buy all that oil from Russia, when you can get it from your close neighbor who isn’t a tyrant? Why risk your oil prices on what we all know is an enemy of the state when you don’t have to? Until we get support for nuclear energy, we still need fossil fuels. Ignoring that and relying on tyrants comes at your own peril, and Biden has done nothing to help that.

One brow said that the oil that we would be getting from keystone, we are already getting through other methods. So if the keystone was completed and up and running it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever maybe?

 

[fishonjazz]

Again, why spend the money to try to get leases when the administration has shown they aren’t supportive of home grown oil? Like I said earlier, it’s not like you put in a lease and the next day (or week) you’re drilling.

The leases have already be gotten. No need to spend money to get leases you already have. The leases simply aren't being used.
Also, I reckon that what is happening in ukraine has maybe changed this administrations thoughts on supporting home grown oil. Everything I have seen from biden/psaki is saying drill baby drill!

 

[One Brow]

People didn't die in the freeze?

That's not the part I said was a lie. Is that really the best example of your reading skills?

 

[One Brow]

"Green" politics is real even in Texas. It's a decision-making criterion even in industry.

Green politics is real, but doesn't have power in Texas.

I agree that it's a criterion for some industries, but that's not political power.

 

[One Brow]

Again, why spend the money to try to get leases when the administration has shown they aren’t supportive of home grown oil? Like I said earlier, it’s not like you put in a lease and the next day (or week) you’re drilling.

Again, why issue more leases when we already have 7,000 leases not being used?

 

[One Brow]

One brow said that the oil that we would be getting from keystone, we are already getting through other methods. So if the keystone was completed and up and running it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever maybe?

Probably "no difference" is a little extreme. Pipelines are less expensive (and seem to have greater lossage) than tankers, trains, etc.

In particular, the tar sands oil that would have been in Keystone causes more difficulty in pipelines than cleaner oil.

 

[babe]

Again, why issue more leases when we already have 7,000 leases not being used?

Oh, maybe........ like....., man,........ there's some fraudsters who market leases that are worthless. Maybe by the thousands......

Or, maybe, there are regulatory issues that have effectively stopped some...... well, thousands.

Exploration and filing for leases is years down the road for some. Others have been on a different approach, doing the paperwork or regulatory stuff first,so one the lease is approved they can start right away.

What is this nonsense about. Everybody knows there were thousands of layoffs when Biden started putting the brakes on the entire process, and many wells were simply shut down on the prospect of protracted interference with business. Domestic production declined because of political policy.

Really inconsequential or meaningless in real environmental terms. An oil well is less messy than five cows grazing on 100 acres of grass, really.

Oil pipelines reduce combustion in transport a way lot.

But go ahead. Invent more stupid objections to good sense.

 

[babe]

Back on topic.

The fascist interests that want to crack Putin and take control of Russia have disclosed the existence of agents on the ground in Russia to pick up after Putin. A large political faction against Putin is Russia's communist party. Others are the oligarchs who have been bribed by and done favors for the fascist foreign interests. A recent article in the CFR publication "Foreign affairs" outlined some of these opponents of Putin at home.

this is actually part of the "containment" bubble that is supposed to exercise control over a rising China. It is an effort to derail BRICS and the "land bridge" or trancontinental freightline being build by participants in the Silk Road or Belt and Road project. It is British and American based business interests pulling political strings, and aiming to lock down oil worldwide. It is the people who backed Biden.

The same people who are working so hard to shut down political dissent in the USA.

I don't know how to make an angel outta Putin, but Hillary and Obama are just as bad. Not to mention Xi.

It's not worth throwing politcal independence for Ukraine, or the Ukrainian people under the bus of globalism.

Time to make a settlement in Ukraine, and accept no NATO foothold there, and no great partition of the country. Political and military neutrality is good for Ukraine.

 

[Gameface]

Back on topic.

The fascist interests that want to crack Putin and take control of Russia have disclosed the existence of agents on the ground in Russia to pick up after Putin. A large political faction against Putin is Russia's communist party. Others are the oligarchs who have been bribed by and done favors for the fascist foreign interests. A recent article in the CFR publication "Foreign affairs" outlined some of these opponents of Putin at home.

this is actually part of the "containment" bubble that is supposed to exercise control over a rising China. It is an effort to derail BRICS and the "land bridge" or trancontinental freightline being build by participants in the Silk Road or Belt and Road project. It is British and American based business interests pulling political strings, and aiming to lock down oil worldwide. It is the people who backed Biden.

The same people who are working so hard to shut down political dissent in the USA.

I don't know how to make an angel outta Putin, but Hillary and Obama are just as bad. Not to mention Xi.

It's not worth throwing politcal independence for Ukraine, or the Ukrainian people under the bus of globalism.

Time to make a settlement in Ukraine, and accept no NATO foothold there, and no great partition of the country. Political and military neutrality is good for Ukraine.

LOL Obama is just as bad as Putin?

You're beating your own credibility into the ground like a dead horse.

 

[LogGrad98]

LOL Obama is just as bad as Putin?

You're beating your own credibility into the ground like a dead horse.

Yeah, he might be WORSE!

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Yeah, he might be WORSE!

He might be on to something. I've never seen Putin perform a terrorist fist jab.

 

[babe]

LOL Obama is just as bad as Putin?

You're beating your own credibility into the ground like a dead horse.

Obama is not inactive in politics today. He bought a $12M dive near Washington DC so he could operate as a sort of spider in his web of influence. Neither is Hillary really off the radar. They are very committed to their ideals of globalism and the interests they serve.

Some conservatives wanna make them both out as commies with many "connections" to known communists. I sorta believe they aren't real commies because they don't really believe the crap. But they find the ideas useful for political purposes and they win points with the Bigs for really having no aversion to Fascism.

I don't care what unthinking people have to say about me so much as I hope someone will begin to see the picture and maybe decide to help with real education, real human rights, and limited governments that can't be taken over with so much capacity for damage as Putin or a Rockefeller hack.

 

[The Thriller]

The fascist interests that want to crack Putin and take control of Russia have disclosed the existence of agents on the ground in Russia to pick up after Putin. A large political faction against Putin is Russia's communist party. Others are the oligarchs who have been bribed by and done favors for the fascist foreign interests. A recent article in the CFR publication "Foreign affairs" outlined some of these opponents of Putin at home.

Wait is it fascists or communists who are scheming against Putin? Cuz you’re describing two completely different tribes here.

And foreign fascists are bribing Russia’s oligarchs? Who are these foreign fascists? I want their names and where they’re from. Which oligarchs are they bribing? Do you have any evidence for any of this?