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LoPo said:
Congratulations on retirement man. You play music for pleasure or for the masses?

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Hey thanks LoPo, much appreciated Sir. Concerning music, just a hobbyist really - good for the soul you know. I have a couple of friends (bass and drums) that I jam with. Also do the acoustic open mic thing occasionally.
 
Release the Kraken said:
He's looked good when he's had his opportunity on the big stage. I think playing in some dimly lit gym with a handful of people in the stands must feel like being banished to Siberia for guys that have tasted the really big stage like Butler has. To me he's much better than mid second round just by virtue of his "Big game" performances. Plus he reminds me a bit of Jalen Brunson with his craftiness and toughness.
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I hope your right but when he was made to look like total garbage by Rockets and Kings GLeaguers it makes you scratch your head. He ought to be running those guys out of the gym instead of vice versa.
 
Release the Kraken said:
Yeah, I don’t know, seems like some kind of an old boys club around here. Whatever, too many petty little games for me. I mean I usually don’t stick around this long in the off-season but there’s been this palpable undercurrent of change since Ainge got hired and I just wanted to be in the know. So I respond occasionally to something that piques my interest and it’s generally an outright ignore. I generally have a lot more fun in the game threads but most these off-season guys are just here to jack each other off like they’re real GMs and coaches. Maybe if you kiss the ring enough times. I’ll never know cause that ain’t me. I really don’t have time for the masquerade anyway. Even in a couple weeks when I retire, I mean how many hypothetical Jazz scenarios can we entertain with our close circle of jerks before we’ve had enough. No wonder some of these guys are so god damn miserable!
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How you dare to have a life?
Stay here in the mud creepy monster!
 
Jazz are going to be discussing Gobert trade scenarios with Atlanta, and I think Atlanta is going to ask for Jordan Clarkson. Lou Williams is getting ancient, and they're going to lose Delon Wright in free agency.
 
I think this Gobert or Mitchell argument is kind of funny because we already know who the franchise has chosen. This is not a debate they are having in the front office, and it's not a debate the rest of the league would be having. One of these players is a lot more valuable than the other, and it's just a fact. It's Mitchell and it's not close. Building around a 30 year old Rudy Gobert in the modern nba is the most insane thing I've ever heard. It's an idea only a delusional fan could have. I don't know how you could watch the Jazz playoff performance in the last three years and come to the conclusion that Gobert is your most valuable piece. Year after year the league has proven that good teams can neutralize "The Gobert Effect" when they need to. And if you trade Mitchell you're not getting a Mitchell-quality star back--star for star trades don't happen--and if you don't have a Mitchell quality star you might as well trade Gobert and start the rebuild, because you can't win even a first round playoff series if Gobert is you're best player.

These are the pertinent questions Ainge and the front office are asking themselves: do you keep Gobert and Mitchell together, or do you trade Gobert? Or do we think Mitchell himself isn't good enough to be a franchise player and should we trade them both?" I really doubt there's anyone in that entire front office saying, "Let's trade Mitchell and do a quick rebuild around a 30 year old defensive-only center who can't even score on Luka Doncic in the post."
 
LoPo said:
Dallas lined up in a set that had an iso up top with 3 out on the right. So if Don pushes Dinwiddie to his left and to Rudy, Dinwiddie has to hit a very tough left handed shot or floater on the run going to his left.

Like I say often, I could be wrong, but it looks to me like he forced him left on purpose. Rudy is supposed to step in because that's the design. We have been funneling stuff to Rudy for years.

I think Don messed up by not pushing down enough and to Rudy, but the plan was to send him left and to Rudy.
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Whatever Don did or didn’t do, I promise, that wasn’t in the game plan. Lmao.
 
This article has a reasonable take on things...

The Jazz have been built as a pick-and-roll team around Conley/Gobert and other guys who can run pick-and-rolls with Gobert. Their timeline has been based around guys in their 30s (Conley, Bogdanovic, Ingles) playing next to Gobert. The Jazz now need to shift both their playstyle and their timeline if they want to improve. They need to reset.

www.slcdunk.com

What the Utah Jazz will do this offseason ... unless they don’t

A very accurate prediction, unless it isn’t and we just forget it
www.slcdunk.com www.slcdunk.com
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
This article has a reasonable take on things...

The Jazz have been built as a pick-and-roll team around Conley/Gobert and other guys who can run pick-and-rolls with Gobert. Their timeline has been based around guys in their 30s (Conley, Bogdanovic, Ingles) playing next to Gobert. The Jazz now need to shift both their playstyle and their timeline if they want to improve. They need to reset.

www.slcdunk.com

What the Utah Jazz will do this offseason ... unless they don’t

A very accurate prediction, unless it isn’t and we just forget it
www.slcdunk.com www.slcdunk.com
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Excellent article. Everyone should read it.

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