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Elizah Huge said:
Yes, I’d do that. Then I’d explore moving Royce for a pick if possible.
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I would keep Royce. The more unselfish willing defenders the better. Just imagine how impactful he could be playing 18-20 minutes off the bench instead of 35 as a starter....
 
LoPo said:
Based off these rumors (OG and before Conley for LeVert).... what about?
We get out of the luxury completely.
Don, Trent Jr and OG could create a long future together.
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A long future? Don't tell me you're still in denial about Donovan staying with the Jazz long term.
 
Jingled said:
A long future? Don't tell me you're still in denial about Donovan staying with the Jazz long term.
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I don't think he finishes his entire career here, but success can change narratives.

Don, Trent Jr, and OG are an amazing trio. Find a PF for those three, and who knows what the ceiling can be if we stay healthy.
 
I'm not sure they'd go OG and Trent unless Trent isn't going to extend and OG is unhappy with his role. They'd need more shooting after giving up their two best shooters. I'm sure you could work Bogey or JC into some iteration that would make some sense.

As far as win-now options go I think OG and Trent are about as good a return you could possibly hope for.
 
LoPo said:
So you don't like the Rudy for OG and Trent Jr trade?
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I get why Trent gets thrown in for salary purposes, but he's an awful shooter. He's a chucker and not an efficient one.

Beggars can't be choosers, but he just doesn't do a lot for me.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'm not sure they'd go OG and Trent unless Trent isn't going to extend and OG is unhappy with his role. They'd need more shooting after giving up their two best shooters. I'm sure you could work Bogey or JC into some iteration that would make some sense.

As far as win-now options go I think OG and Trent are about as good a return you could possibly hope for.
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OG was a relatively late first round pick in 2017. That was the draft Spida was selected. He hasn't exactly been durable in the Association. Plus being disgruntled will help the locker room tons.
 
homeytennis said:
OG was a relatively late first round pick in 2017. That was the draft Spida was selected. He hasn't exactly been durable in the Association. Plus being disgruntled will help the locker room tons.
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He's a very serious guy.. no nonsense. I don't think he is a cancer or anything like that. The injuries are concerning but when he plays he's very good and he has a great contract. I think he has a little more to offer but with Barnes and Pascal offering some of those things as well he may not be fully utilized. He's also an "asset" that will be easy to flip for value when we need to blow it up. For example, if they wanted I think they could get #7 pick from the Blazers plus another first with no problem.

I think he's basically the perfect wing to complement Donovan and has improved while not being healthy all the time. If he is able to stay on the court he likely has another big step forward he can take.
 
LoPo said:
I would keep Royce. The more unselfish willing defenders the better. Just imagine how impactful he could be playing 18-20 minutes off the bench instead of 35 as a starter....
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Paying $10 mil for that number of minutes quickly makes his contract negative value.

Maybe more importantly, the notion of competing for anything with any of the major pieces we have in place is a fantasy. Get what you can.
 
If we are hell bent on building around Donovan and trading Rudy then you need to land one good wing in the OG deal... OG or PJ Washington (he's a tweener wing big type). Then you have to hit on a distressed asset like Lonzo Ball or say the Hawks don't want to pay DeAndre Hunter and you swing a Bogey for Hunter deal. You'd also like to get a first and you need to hit on that pick or an undrafted FA and find a contributor. You also need to hit on a diamond in the rough FA like @Saint Cy of JFC 's guy Yuta and hope he is able to be a valuable flex piece for 25 minutes a night.

Its a high degree of difficulty and tbh the exact type of moves we have absolutely whiffed on the last few years.

When you trade a high level player like Rudy you get 3 quarters for your dollar... so some of those quarters gonna have to turn into .50 pieces to make us whole.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Paying $10 mil for that number of minutes quickly makes his contract negative value.

Maybe more importantly, the notion of competing for anything with any of the major pieces we have in place is a fantasy. Get what you can.
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Royce is the guy most easily replaced by a minimum player. If you can get value for him while cutting salary you do it.
 
Trade idea of the day... Washington will be finding a pg... they are the best suitor for Conley. We send Mike to Washington, Washington sends KCP and Ish Smith (salary filler) to Chicago, Chicago send Lonzo to us. We gamble on Lonzo's deal... Chicago rolls with Caruso and Demar/Zach as primary creators. Get an expiring and a wing defender/spacer.

We might get something that fits amazing or he might be broken. Its a big swing. He does a lot to address our needs if healthy.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If we are hell bent on building around Donovan and trading Rudy then you need to land one good wing in the OG deal... OG or PJ Washington (he's a tweener wing big type). Then you have to hit on a distressed asset like Lonzo Ball or say the Hawks don't want to pay DeAndre Hunter and you swing a Bogey for Hunter deal. You'd also like to get a first and you need to hit on that pick or an undrafted FA and find a contributor. You also need to hit on a diamond in the rough FA like @Saint Cy of JFC 's guy Yuta and hope he is able to be a valuable flex piece for 25 minutes a night.

Its a high degree of difficulty and tbh the exact type of moves we have absolutely whiffed on the last few years.

When you trade a high level player like Rudy you get 3 quarters for your dollar... so some of those quarters gonna have to turn into .50 pieces to make us whole.
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Hopefully Ainge realize this is impossible and we trade Mitchell or both instead.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Royce is the guy most easily replaced by a minimum player. If you can get value for him while cutting salary you do it.
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Also Donovan's BFF on the team

One of the many team building roadblocks Donovan presents if you want to keep Donnie happy and not requesting a trade to a bigger market
 
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