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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

Avery said:
Roster-wise, we don’t have a lot of room. Just give us the picks.
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We will be fine. Just can’t take back more than we send out but that’s where the Lakers come in. We send 2 or 3 for 1 to them for Westbrook who we buy out and it makes room for the players we take back from the Knicks.
 
The absolute best iteration of this I can think of works salary wise and roster wise for every team:

Jazz out: Donovan Mitchell, Bojan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley

Jazz in: Russell Westbrook (buy-out), Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Derrick Rose

Knicks out: Obi Toppin, Immaunuel Quickley, Derrick Rose, Cam Reddish

Knicks in: Donovan Mitchell

Lakers out: Russell Westbrook

Lakers in: Bojan Bogdanovic, Malik Beasley, Cam Reddish

We also end up with these picks:

2023 Knicks 1st
2023 Dallas 1st (top-10 protected)
2023 Detroit 1st (top-18 protected)
2025 Knicks 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st (top-4 protected)
2027 Knicks 1st
2027 Lakers 1st
2029 Lakers 1st

Maybe a pick swap or two from the Knicks as well or if the Lakers would rather give their 2028 1st with a pick swap in 27/29 or something. You can also swap out Quickley for Grimes or Beasley for Clarkson and it will still work.
 
Elizah Huge said:
The absolute best iteration of this I can think of works salary wise and roster wise for every team:

Jazz out: Donovan Mitchell, Bojan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley

Jazz in: Russell Westbrook (buy-out), Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Derrick Rose

Knicks out: Obi Toppin, Immaunuel Quickley, Derrick Rose, Cam Reddish

Knicks in: Donovan Mitchell

Lakers out: Russell Westbrook

Lakers in: Bojan Bogdanovic, Malik Beasley, Cam Reddish

We also end up with these picks:

2023 Knicks 1st
2023 Dallas 1st (top-10 protected)
2023 Detroit 1st (top-18 protected)
2025 Knicks 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st (top-4 protected)
2027 Knicks 1st
2027 Lakers 1st
2029 Lakers 1st

Maybe a pick swap or two from the Knicks as well or if the Lakers would rather give their 2028 1st with a pick swap in 27/29 or something. You can also swap out Quickley for Grimes or Beasley for Clarkson and it will still work.
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Swap Conley for Beasley and the Knicks take Gay and I'm in.
 
Elizah Huge said:
The absolute best iteration of this I can think of works salary wise and roster wise for every team:

Jazz out: Donovan Mitchell, Bojan Bogdanovic and Malik Beasley

Jazz in: Russell Westbrook (buy-out), Obi Toppin, Immanuel Quickley, Derrick Rose

Knicks out: Obi Toppin, Immaunuel Quickley, Derrick Rose, Cam Reddish

Knicks in: Donovan Mitchell

Lakers out: Russell Westbrook

Lakers in: Bojan Bogdanovic, Malik Beasley, Cam Reddish

We also end up with these picks:

2023 Knicks 1st
2023 Dallas 1st (top-10 protected)
2023 Detroit 1st (top-18 protected)
2025 Knicks 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st (top-4 protected)
2027 Knicks 1st
2027 Lakers 1st
2029 Lakers 1st

Maybe a pick swap or two from the Knicks as well or if the Lakers would rather give their 2028 1st with a pick swap in 27/29 or something. You can also swap out Quickley for Grimes or Beasley for Clarkson and it will still work.
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Lakers should get more for their picks. I think it is fair and reasonable for their asking price that they be furnished with the rest of their rotation (four or five players) and that’s what the Jazz are uniquely positioned to offer.

To further dial in the perfect package, that might mean adding in good rookie scale players into the deal (a la Quickley).

I have said a million times that they can basically have their pick of players we can provide, but assuming they’re trying to keep a tidy cap-sheet next year, send:

-Bogey, Beasley, Vanderbilt, Quickley, Reddish

Or something like that. I’m also interested in a ‘26 super-swap (cuz of the extant Wolves swap), ‘27 unprotected, and ‘28 swap. As a counter (I think this is sneaky even better than ‘27 and ‘29 picks). But to end up with a solid playoff rotation, max-ish cap space next year, some rookie scale guys, and save like $40 million, sending two picks or whatever is maybe not even enough, frankly.

TLDR; to get both picks I think the Lakers gotta get more.
 
homeytennis said:
Why do the Jazz want Rose? He was acquired once at the trade deadline and immediately waived.
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We don’t but we have to take salary back and he’s basically an expiring because he has a team option next year. Otherwise we’d be taking Fournier and his bad contract.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Lakers should get more for their picks. I think it is fair and reasonable for their asking price to be furnished with furnishing the rest of their rotation (four or five players) and that’s what the Jazz are uniquely positioned to offer.

To give up the whole haul, that might mean adding in good rookie scale players into the deal (a la Quickley).

I have said a million times that they can basically have their pick of players we can provide, but assuming they’re trying to keep a tidy cap-sheet next year, send:

-Bogey, Beasley, Vanderbilt, Quickley, Reddish

Or something like that.

TLDR; to get both picks I think the Lakers gotta get more. I’m also interested in a ‘26 super-swap (cuz of the extant Wolves swap), ‘27 unprotected, and ‘28 swap. As a counter (I think this is sneaky even better than ‘27 and ‘29 picks).
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Nah. The Lakers are getting three solid players each worth a late first on their own, plus getting rid of RW. A huge contract not many teams can take, plus the RW albatross.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Lakers should get more for their picks. I think it is fair and reasonable for their asking price that they be furnished with the rest of their rotation (four or five players) and that’s what the Jazz are uniquely positioned to offer.

To further dial in the perfect package, that might mean adding in good rookie scale players into the deal (a la Quickley).

I have said a million times that they can basically have their pick of players we can provide, but assuming they’re trying to keep a tidy cap-sheet next year, send:

-Bogey, Beasley, Vanderbilt, Quickley, Reddish

Or something like that. I’m also interested in a ‘26 super-swap (cuz of the extant Wolves swap), ‘27 unprotected, and ‘28 swap. As a counter (I think this is sneaky even better than ‘27 and ‘29 picks). But to end up with a solid playoff rotation, max-ish cap space next year, some rookie scale guys, and save like $40 million, sending two picks or whatever is maybe not even enough, frankly.

TLDR; to get both picks I think the Lakers gotta get more.
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That’s fine I’d have no issues adding more. Maybe without adding more we get their 2028 1st unprotected plus a 2026 swap or something.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Friggin idiots want to give everything to the lakers, good lord.
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No team should be helping the lakers we absolutely won that trade with them with Beverly they have gotten older once again at least we got some youth I don’t understand why any team would want to help the lakers let them keep their ****** contract of Westbrook
 
Mikle12 said:
No team should be helping the lakers we absolutely won that trade with them with Beverly they have gotten older once again at least we got some youth I don’t understand why any team would want to help the lakers let them keep their ****** contract of Westbrook
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Hmm… maybe it has something to do with getting their 27/29 1sts when LeBron isn’t on the team anymore and Davis might be elsewhere as well. Just a random guess though.
 
Mikle12 said:
No team should be helping the lakers we absolutely won that trade with them with Beverly they have gotten older once again at least we got some youth I don’t understand why any team would want to help the lakers let them keep their ****** contract of Westbrook
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Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
Nah I age no problem taking RW those picks look juicy. I just don’t want to give more than Bogey and Beasley.
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Those Lakers picks are tempting. Jerry West was the last good drafting GM they have had. Lakers thrive on free agency and they could easily be bad, almost guaranteed, when Lebron retires.
 
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