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Jazz and Knicks discussing Donovan Mitchell trade per Shams Charania and Tony Jones

BENTLEY said:
I’d prefer to send them Quickly over Reddish. That may be a wrong move, but Reddish potential > Quickly’s.
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IQ is a +- god. There is something to his game that is an overall positive and I think he might really surprise.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
IQ is a +- god. There is something to his game that is an overall positive and I think he might really surprise.
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Yeah, I could be wrong. If it was one or the other I’m just more enamored w Reddish’ ceiling. I’m happy to have both on the Jazz.
But I know very little about IQ, other than - to this point - he’s been a bench player w a good reputation. Shrug. I’d gamble on Reddish though.

And that’s one more post while we wait for another trade to drop! In Ainge we trust.
 
Right now I want quickley and toppin to Utah.

I am really excited about

Quickley
Sexton
Fonticchio (havent learned the spelling)
Toppin
Kessler/doke

Butler
THT, NAW
Johnson, balmaro
Vando?? Probably traded
Kessler/doke

That is my talking team

Players I would target in 2023

A wing 6'5" to 6'8"
A pretty shooter (preferably 2 or a 3)
6'7" to 6'10" forward (can player either position
A center wpulfnt complain about a 4/5 combo
 
Chargers Jazz Angels said:
Right now I want quickley and toppin to Utah.

I am really excited about

Quickley
Sexton
Fonticchio (havent learned the spelling)
Toppin
Kessler/doke

Butler
THT, NAW
Johnson, balmaro
Vando?? Probably traded
Kessler/doke

That is my talking team

Players I would target in 2023

A wing 6'5" to 6'8"
A pretty shooter (preferably 2 or a 3)
6'7" to 6'10" forward (can player either position
A center wpulfnt complain about a 4/5 combo
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Players to target in 2023: Best player available regardless of position. We have 0 players to build around, that is our main goal with every draft until we get those guys. Our roster is role players at best assuming we trade Mitchell. Even with later picks we should swing for the fences for every guy. No reason to try for more role players, we need big potential guys.
 
whatthe said:
Those Lakers picks are tempting. Jerry West was the last good drafting GM they have had. Lakers thrive on free agency and they could easily be bad, almost guaranteed, when Lebron retires.
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Actually, the Lakers scouting/drafting is one area of their organization that has done pretty well even amid the turmoil of the past decade. Should have taken Tatum instead of Ball, sure; but otherwise they've gotten a lot of players out of their drafts. Just haven't kept them.
 
It is starting to get to the point where those Laker picks are getting WAYYY overrated. Lakers might end up being bad, but nobody needs to build them a roster AND pay Westbrook 50 million. There is a reason Indiana, who has been trying to trade Turner for 3 years, is turning their nose up at the deal.
 
framer said:
It is starting to get to the point where those Laker picks are getting WAYYY overrated. Lakers might end up being bad, but nobody needs to build them a roster AND pay Westbrook 50 million. There is a reason Indiana, who has been trying to trade Turner for 3 years, is turning their nose up at the deal.
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They’re really not overrated. If anything they’re underrated. Westbrook is an expiring contract. Please show me another deal where we could deal Bogey and Beasley or Clarkson for 2 unprotected picks that far in the future from a team that is extremely likely to be bad?
 
Elizah Huge said:
They’re really not overrated. If anything they’re underrated. Westbrook is an expiring contract. Please show me another deal where we could deal Bogey and Beasley or Clarkson for 2 unprotected picks that far in the future from a team that is extremely likely to be bad?
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Lebron’s contract expires in 2025 and he will be 40+ by that time and maybe even playing for another team the next year. AD could be a corpse by then. If they get Kyrie, he will be 33 and he has an extremely checkered history in terms of helping teams win.

In the intervening years, they will be running pretty dry on draft assets to reload their talent (and they’ll be capped out).
 
Elizah Huge said:
They’re really not overrated. If anything they’re underrated. Westbrook is an expiring contract. Please show me another deal where we could deal Bogey and Beasley or Clarkson for 2 unprotected picks that far in the future from a team that is extremely likely to be bad?
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Lakers future is bleak. 5 years from now AD and Lebron aren’t on that roster and if they are they aren’t anything close to what they are now. They are currently a lotto team, they don’t own many picks in the future… they were a dumpster fire pre-Lebron. The Lakers picks are more valuable than the Knicks picks imo.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Players to target in 2023: Best player available regardless of position. We have 0 players to build around, that is our main goal with every draft until we get those guys. Our roster is role players at best assuming we trade Mitchell. Even with later picks we should swing for the fences for every guy. No reason to try for more role players, we need big potential guys.
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This. If we get a top pick (top 3) we absolutely need a top guy, regardless of position. BPA, with the caveat it is not a project like DexEx.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Lebron’s contract expires in 2025 and he will be 40+ by that time and maybe even playing for another team the next year. AD could be a corpse by then. If they get Kyrie, he will be 33 and he has an extremely checkered history in terms of helping teams win.

In the intervening years, they will be running pretty dry on draft assets to reload their talent (and they’ll be capped out).
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Also, when was the last time the Lakers were good without Lebron? Given their ownership disaster and that he’s gonna likely be exiting in some form or fashion, I’m not sure there’s a better bet on unprotected picks hitting than those picks.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Players to target in 2023: Best player available regardless of position. We have 0 players to build around, that is our main goal with every draft until we get those guys. Our roster is role players at best assuming we trade Mitchell. Even with later picks we should swing for the fences for every guy. No reason to try for more role players, we need big potential guys.
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Players to target are no one other than unproven players with upside. This rebuild needs to be done correctly and that means not jumping the gun in free agency. We should be expecting a 3 or 4 year rebuild.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Lakers future is bleak. 5 years from now AD and Lebron aren’t on that roster and if they are they aren’t anything close to what they are now. They are currently a lotto team, they don’t own many picks in the future… they were a dumpster fire pre-Lebron. The Lakers picks are more valuable than the Knicks picks imo.
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I mostly agree, but they will always be a free agency destination and with the cap jumping they will have plenty of chances to clear the books and sign some top level guys by 2027.
 
Anyone else having troubles with the forum today? I'm getting "The firewall on this server is blocking your connection." message and I have not found any other way to post except to go to my mentions and get to one of the threads I've posted and post there? Like I'm posting here...
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Lakers future is bleak. 5 years from now AD and Lebron aren’t on that roster and if they are they aren’t anything close to what they are now. They are currently a lotto team, they don’t own many picks in the future… they were a dumpster fire pre-Lebron. The Lakers picks are more valuable than the Knicks picks imo.
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The Lakers are the number free agent destination. To say their future looks bleak is stupid when that is the case. To expect them to be bad in 5 years is a huge question mark.
 
sip said:
The Lakers are the number free agent destination. To say their future looks bleak is stupid when that is the case. To expect them to be bad in 5 years is a huge question mark.
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Besides LeBron (which I know was huge) who exactly have they signed in the last 15 years? They’re the Knicks of the West when it comes to free agency. They are always a free agency premium destination in theory more than actuality. They were terrible in Kobe’s last years and pre-LeBron.
 
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