14% chance at arguably the best prospect of all time is pretty good in the big picture.
Culture of winning or tank?
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Based on last night? I'd say the glance made it move.
Meh. The Jazz are extremely likely to not get him even if they're the worst team in the NBA.
Rooting against the Jazz all season only to see Victor go somewhere else (by far the most likely outcome) just seems like a miserable experience. I'd rather just enjoy the season.
If spending $1000 on lottery tickets got you a 14% chance at a $500 million pot, you wouldn't do it because the odds are "low"?
BTW: and another 28% chance at winning $50 million if not.
I'm just a fan. I don't get to choose whether or not I spend $1,000 on a lottery ticket.
What I do get to choose is whether or not I enjoy this season.
No kidding. I have never seen such a crazy reaction to one game. It will be interesting to see the reaction if we go out and lose by 30 to minny in the next game.
Actually they make it alot more worth it. Now you don't have to out tank everyone to get the best chance at #1. You just need to tank into that bottom 4.
homeytennis
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Remember the Wizards last season. They started the season on fire and then were truly awful by the end of the season. There's still hope.
If my best odds at keeping the house and kids is 13%, absolutely.
And it got them, what, the 9th pick? Make no mistake, to have exceptionally high odds, you have to have an exceptionally bad record, and that takes consistency. If the Jazz are .500 halfway through the season, they will have to tank their absolute asses off to get in proper position.
All this talk about culture that we've heard over the past few weeks doesn't make any sense to me. How many guys currently on the roster are still going to be here when we're a playoff team again? Maybe 2 or 3? There is going to be so much roster turnover over the next couple of years that the culture is going to change from season to season. You get a whole new group of guys in here with different personalities and backgrounds, and it's going to create a completely different locker room dynamic.
The time to worry about culture is after we get some high-end talent on the roster and start to build a core of players that are going to be here long term.
The time to worry about culture is after we get some high-end talent on the roster and start to build a core of players that are going to be here long term.
George W
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lmao.
I remain a fan of trading away Conley, Clarkson, and Gay. They don't belong on this team. If the rest of the guys figure it out and we do better than anticipated, then so be it.
But at this point we can get a *lot* from those three. I know those Lakers are heading into desperation zone, especially with Schroeder out. Time to swipe those picks.
Also happy that we didn't give Vanderbilt to the Suns -- **** the Suns.
- George
The Fresh Prince
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Walker was a late 20's pick. We have a number of draft picks in the coming years, so we can build a solid squad with our cap space, draft picks and trades. This team has a lot of depth, and high energy players. Sexton and Beasley coming off the bench is something a lot of teams may not have an answer for. Both guys could easily start on any other team. Kessler probably could too.
Release the Kraken
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The Stickman is not real, the stickman is not real…… Believe or don’t but hype and facts are two separate things. But urban legend has it that the man is an absolute BEAST!!! And I saw it with my own eyes in a very competitive… .meaningful showdown….made for tv exhibition platform for Victor and Scoot.
Myth #1 - All we have to do is tank hard and he falls into our laps like mana from heaven.
Fact - Even if we finish with the absolute worst record in the league we have a measly 14% chance of landing the guy.
Myth #2 - Best prospect since Lebron, did I say generational?
Fact - Lebron is built like some Greek God at 6’9” and 250 lbs. Victor is 7’3” or four and weighs 210 on a good day. He’s built like, well Chet Holmgren actually. Expecting the same level of durability and sustainability as Lebron is absolute lunacy!
Myth #3 - Wemby has the potential to be better than Kevin Durant.
Fact - Again, Durant, the original thin man is 6’9”, 240. More highly skilled in every facet and reasonably durable though he has suffered through some sizable injuries, the last of which cost his team over a year of court time. Brandon Ingram at 6’8” 190 is a better comparison. Though he played 79 games his first season, he’s averaged 58 in the five years since. He made All Star reserve status once and if he and Zion can ever be healthy at the same time, still has a small window to get past the first round and possibly get a ring.
Myth #4- Even if we tanked to last and missed on Wemby, the consolation prize would be Scoot Henderson and he’s another MONSTAR!!!!
Fact - Okay skilled sure, and at 6’2” 195, undoubtedly more durable than Wemby would be, but do we really need another undersized combo guard? Talk about Mitchell the second! I don’t have the time or patience to break down his numbers but ask yourself this, is he really that much or any better than Sexton, Beasley, THT or even Agbaji?
Myth #5 Superstars and lottery picks get preferential treatment in today’s NBA.
Fact- Not so much anymore as we saw last night. In light of the Doneghy revelations one poll had over 90% of respondents opining that it was a dishonest league. Silver has made it a priority to clean up the NBA’s tarnished reputation.
Stickman isn’t real I tell ya and neither is mortgaging our present full of good young players with loads of potential for an uncertain future. I think gambler Danny trades a few scratch-offs away for a blue chipper at the deadline anyway.
Myth #1 - All we have to do is tank hard and he falls into our laps like mana from heaven.
Fact - Even if we finish with the absolute worst record in the league we have a measly 14% chance of landing the guy.
Myth #2 - Best prospect since Lebron, did I say generational?
Fact - Lebron is built like some Greek God at 6’9” and 250 lbs. Victor is 7’3” or four and weighs 210 on a good day. He’s built like, well Chet Holmgren actually. Expecting the same level of durability and sustainability as Lebron is absolute lunacy!
Myth #3 - Wemby has the potential to be better than Kevin Durant.
Fact - Again, Durant, the original thin man is 6’9”, 240. More highly skilled in every facet and reasonably durable though he has suffered through some sizable injuries, the last of which cost his team over a year of court time. Brandon Ingram at 6’8” 190 is a better comparison. Though he played 79 games his first season, he’s averaged 58 in the five years since. He made All Star reserve status once and if he and Zion can ever be healthy at the same time, still has a small window to get past the first round and possibly get a ring.
Myth #4- Even if we tanked to last and missed on Wemby, the consolation prize would be Scoot Henderson and he’s another MONSTAR!!!!
Fact - Okay skilled sure, and at 6’2” 195, undoubtedly more durable than Wemby would be, but do we really need another undersized combo guard? Talk about Mitchell the second! I don’t have the time or patience to break down his numbers but ask yourself this, is he really that much or any better than Sexton, Beasley, THT or even Agbaji?
Myth #5 Superstars and lottery picks get preferential treatment in today’s NBA.
Fact- Not so much anymore as we saw last night. In light of the Doneghy revelations one poll had over 90% of respondents opining that it was a dishonest league. Silver has made it a priority to clean up the NBA’s tarnished reputation.
Stickman isn’t real I tell ya and neither is mortgaging our present full of good young players with loads of potential for an uncertain future. I think gambler Danny trades a few scratch-offs away for a blue chipper at the deadline anyway.
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Jazzmix
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Also our rooting for or against doesn't change a thing.. I am just unable to cheer for missing shots or turnovers from our part. Even if of course I would like us to get a chance at the top pick when we play rational thinking goes out of the window.