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Who will you vote for?(Lee/McMullin)

Who will you vote for in November

  • McMullin

    Votes: 13 39.4%

  • Lee

    Votes: 8 24.2%

  • Don’t live in Utah so can’t vote

    Votes: 12 36.4%
  • Total voters
    33
Close elections take time. Many states don’t begin to count mail-in votes and absentees until polls close. Some count it before. Some precincts that are small and rural will count faster than big urban precincts. Etc, etc, etc.

These rules can all be found in every state’s .gov website. It’s not hidden, it’s not black magic, it’s right there out in the open for all those who aren’t blind to see it.

I’m not watching a minute of this madness tomorrow. It will be beyond infuriating to watch idiots losing by 70 points claiming voter fraud, how 10,000 Mexicans were bussed over to vote illegally and how someone at Dominion ‘updates the algorithm’ and changes 50,000 votes on a whim.
 
Do we want accurate tallies or fast tallies?

I'd love ultra-fast ultra-accurate tallies, but if I can't have both I want the count to be accurate.
 
Gameface said:
Do we want accurate tallies or fast tallies?

I'd love ultra-fast ultra-accurate tallies, but if I can't have both I want the count to be accurate.
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It can be a little of both, we just need to understand that election counts turn on a dime based on so many factors and that just because Candidate A is in the lead by ten points over Candidate B with 20% of the vote in doesn't mean that the books are being cooked for the next 80% when that deficit erodes and Candidate B wins by 10 points.

And when it comes to accurate totals, let's get it right especially when elections are within <1% and let states take their time vs. proclaiming victory regardless of the party.

None of this will matter come tomorrow, but a guy can dream.
 
The Thriller said:
We should all see where this is going, right?


View: https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/1589779704403595265?s=46&t=Pid0RNR6BbHmia7ICUQA-Q



View: https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1589788031019409409?s=46&t=Pid0RNR6BbHmia7ICUQA-Q



View: https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1589756933023870977?s=46&t=Pid0RNR6BbHmia7ICUQA-Q


Of course, I’ve been told that I’m just an alarmist cheerleader for the “Democrat” party. The next 48 hrs are going to get ugly. And I’m sure the same folks who downplayed Jan 6 will soon downplay the ugliness we’ll soon see. But whatever.
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I'd love to see that Trump lawyer make those same arguments in court. She wouldn't, of course, because she doesn't want to be disbarred.

Many Trump supporters seem oblivious to the fact that Trump and company make many claims outside of a courtroom that they absolutely do not stand behind inside a courtroom. There are actual consequences for going into a courtroom and making claims that are obviously false and easily, demonstrably known to be false by the people making them. Then Trump supporters claim that Trump has been mistreated in the courts and THAT is why evidence hasn't been presented, because the courts won't listen. That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. You can state facts all day everyday inside and outside of a courtroom. You actually can't conceal facts that you intend to present in a courtroom, you have to provide all of that information before the trial to the opposing counsel so that they can examine those facts and respond to them with other facts. So there is never a time when you have to wait for that "Matlock moment" to spring information on your opponent. That's just not how court works. Not here and not anywhere that is legitimate.

If Trump and company has facts they should, they could, they have no reason not to produce them.

The only reason to not produce facts about the things they claim is because they don't have any.

END. OF. THE. ****ING. STORY.

Put up or shut up Trump fart sniffing traitors.
 
str8line said:
So you'd vote for the guy who tried a coup over Biden? That's ****ed up.
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Biden inflation is worse than crumbling the entire foundation of our Democratic Republic don’t you know? Btw McMullin has said Biden is largely responsible for inflation. There’s no reason in the rationale.
 
oneye said:
Biden inflation is worse than crumbling the entire foundation of our Democratic Republic
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Inflation *IS* the crumbling of the entire foundation of our Democratic Republic. We are our economy. Communism is an economic system, as is socialism, feudalism, fascism, and as is our system. From our army to our technical and medical innovations. all of it has been driven by the way our economy was set up. The democrat majority controlled House, democrat majority controlled Senate, and the weekend-at-Bernie's democrat that we all pretend is president have wrecked the economy. Inflation is through the roof. Unemployment is ticking up. Huge companies are beginning to announce massive layoffs. The Fed isn't anywhere close to the end of continuing to tighten the belt. This is ALL democrats. Democrats did this. The top three issues on voters minds are inflation, the economy, and crime, and everyone knows that advantages the republicans because the democrats are at fault for breaking all of them. This election is easy; Throw the bums out!
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Inflation *IS* the crumbling of the entire foundation of our Democratic Republic. We are our economy. Communism is an economic system, as is socialism, feudalism, fascism, and as is our system. From our army to our technical and medical innovations. all of it has been driven by the way our economy was set up. The democrat majority controlled House, democrat majority controlled Senate, and the weekend-at-Bernie's democrat that we all pretend is president have wrecked the economy. Inflation is through the roof. Unemployment is ticking up. Huge companies are beginning to announce massive layoffs. The Fed isn't anywhere close to the end of continuing to tighten the belt. This is ALL democrats. Democrats did this. The top three issues on voters minds are inflation, the economy, and crime, and everyone knows that advantages the republicans because the democrats are at fault for breaking all of them. This election is easy; Throw the bums out!
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So the inept financial party or the fascist party. Tough call.

And everyone knows the economy moves like a race car, turns on a dime, zero lag. The president can issue a single word and it all turns to crap or diamonds for everyone. Amazing how flexible and responsive the economy is!! If only Biden just said "no deficit and no inflation" and the genie would provide!!
 
Al-O-Meter said:
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The worst of this we ever saw was during the great depression. Remember how America turned back into tribal states with hordes of savages choosing the new leaders in a thunder dome? Oh yeah, I don't remember that either. Somehow society made it through, Of course we had leaders at the time more concerned with, you know, governing, than they were about the next election or twitter. Unfortunately, we do not have that now. So I guess this is more prescient for us now, isn't it, with inept leadership at the top levels (ALL of the top levels, legislative, judicial, and executive) for going on 7 years now destroying the underpinnings of our society and democracy. One destroyed the rule of law and wiped his *** with the constitution, the next destroyed the economy. What the hell is next? Scary thought, actually.
 
I know it’s been stated before, but America isn’t the only country with inflation. And crime in general is still far lower now than in past decades. But when you have no platform or plans beyond trolling the left and tax cuts for top donors, none of this matters. And when you see politics as a game and use it to insult those you have grievances against, then tonight should be pretty enjoyable.
 
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LogGrad98 said:
The worst of this we ever saw was during the great depression. Remember how America turned back into tribal states with hordes of savages choosing the new leaders in a thunder dome?
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I don't remember a thunder dome, but I do remember that period resulting in a rejection of term limits resulting in our only four term president. I remember the Judicial Branch nearly being destroyed but only being spared due to the 'Switch in Time that Saved Nine'. I do remember that period resulting in a real plotted coup attempt before it was foiled by Smedly Butler. I do remember it becoming punishable by prison sentence to call a politician "fascist". I do remember it becoming illegal for some businesses to set their prices as a dry cleaner went to jail for charging too little for cleaning a shirt. I do remember that period having labor laws installed for the express purpose of keeping less favored ethnicities from competing with favored ethnicities in a tough job market. I do remember some ethnicities being rounded up in prison camps in that era. I do remember nearly half a million Americans dying in the war the financial instability spawned. I remember the only use in anger in human history of atomic weapons.

The damage the democrat majority house, democrat majority controlled senate, and democrat president have done should not be taken lightly.
 
Bucknutz said:
Will this thread turn into tonight’s election results watch party?
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You guys are brave to watch this tonight. My guess is we might not know the full picture of the senate for a couple days. No doubt in my mind that much of the evening will be about R’s wrestling the house back which seems a certainty.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
Inflation *IS* the crumbling of the entire foundation of our Democratic Republic. We are our economy. Communism is an economic system, as is socialism, feudalism, fascism, and as is our system. From our army to our technical and medical innovations. all of it has been driven by the way our economy was set up. The democrat majority controlled House, democrat majority controlled Senate, and the weekend-at-Bernie's democrat that we all pretend is president have wrecked the economy. Inflation is through the roof. Unemployment is ticking up. Huge companies are beginning to announce massive layoffs. The Fed isn't anywhere close to the end of continuing to tighten the belt. This is ALL democrats. Democrats did this. The top three issues on voters minds are inflation, the economy, and crime, and everyone knows that advantages the republicans because the democrats are at fault for breaking all of them. This election is easy; Throw the bums out!
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Spew more.
 
A post I made to Facebook from November 8th 2016 came up today.
This is what I posted:

I just want to ask everyone that no matter who wins the election we all give that person a chance to do a good job or not do a good job before we start hating them.
Don't pre-hate our new president. Forget about their past, let go of your hate, and support him or her at least to begin with until they give you good reason not to support them for things they do as president.
Democrat, repub, liberal, independent or whatever label you put on yourself, we are all Americans and all in this together.

Love not hate
 
fishonjazz said:
A post I made to Facebook from November 8th 2016 came up today.
This is what I posted:

I just want to ask everyone that no matter who wins the election we all give that person a chance to do a good job or not do a good job before we start hating them.
Don't pre-hate our new president. Forget about their past, let go of your hate, and support him or her at least to begin with until they give you good reason not to support them for things they do as president.
Democrat, repub, liberal, independent or whatever label you put on yourself, we are all Americans and all in this together.

Love not hate
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And how did that go? ;)
 
If the Democratic party trotted out the same kind of clowns the Republicans have, like MTG, Oz, Gaetz and Walker I would either not cast a vote on that race or vote for the Republican if they were reasonable people, like McMullin (an actual Republican running as an independent), or Romney, or Cox, or Cheney. Not to mention the senators who lost their seat the last go around because they didn't sniff Trump's farts hard enough.

How can people unironically vote for MTG? How can they listen to her speak and think, "yup!"? (Yeah I don't really know how to punctuate that correctly)
 
Avery said:
And how did that go? ;)
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I rooted for trump for a while, then found that him being president only made him more of a douchebag than he was prior to being president and I hated him again.
I will always root for our president, whether I vote for them or not, until they give me good reason not to.
 
Lauren Boebert gonna lose? LOL

This certainly isn’t turning out to be a “red wave.” Usually the party in power loses a bunch of seats. Dems are flipping governor’s mansions, holding onto senate seats, and largely holding their own in the House.

The sooner republicans realize that they should drop the Trumpy freak shows and get back to the normal tough on national security Reagan conservatives, the better off they’ll be. There’s a lot of well informed/educated people who won’t be freaked out by those types of republicans. These freaky ones just don’t have much attraction outside of trailer parks and the south.
 
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