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Zach is not fully on the market per Shams...

Bulls are hilarious to me. This summer they def put him out there and the teams were like "meh". Then the rumors swung to he's not available they want a ton for him yada yada. Now its both sides are open to a move... dawg they been open to a move... yall just weren't getting offers you liked.

This is all headed to a scenario where Zach's sales price gets low enough that DA trades for him. Just like my wife when she brings home another black coat with big buttons because it was on sale... you already have 5 of those and we live in NorCal... jacket season is like 3 weeks.

I think that 40 million + per year salary becomes prohibitive real quick. That's franchise cornerstone money. That isn't what Zach is.
 
Windy did say on his pod this AM that the return for Lavine will likely be low... mentioned not quite Beal low but may raise some eyebrows.
 
I am curious with Clarkson's scoring explosion lately will increase his yrade value. There are a number of contenders that could use Clarkson use him.
 
I think that 40 million + per year salary becomes prohibitive real quick. That's franchise cornerstone money. That isn't what Zach is.
You could stomach it if he wasn't a cornerstone... like we have Lauri and Kessler real cheap... Key too. Its just I think he is priced as an all-star and I'm not sure he has the impact on winning that some super role players have.

I'm not in at any reasonable price. If its like Sexton/THT/Ochai and no picks... I guess. They will do better than that so its really not reasonable.
 
Lavine ties it with 7 sec left. Big shot.
We following LaVine now?

Trading for this guy at this point would be the height of insanity. When you've put together a contender and need a final piece, a luxury type dude to stand on the perimeter and spread the floor "Miami Ray Allen" style, maybe then. Not now.

This is literally a career losing player who's had the brightest of green lights for years and years and couldn't do anything with it. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
 
Jaden Ivey would be another dark horse candidate.

The kid averaged 16+5+4 his rookie season. Shoots 34% from deep on over 4 attempts per game so there's definitely something to work with. His overall efficiency were better than Ant’s rookie year and people expected him to make that second year jump into stardom but he simply hasn't.

And in his defense, Monty isn't exactly the type of coach known for player relation/development.

I see a buy low opportunity here for the Jazz to bring some much needed talent to their backcourt.


View: https://youtu.be/xQqXAZ1uwoQ?si=WyIXKVjZHbrypsm7
 
Jaden Ivey would be another dark horse candidate.

The kid averaged 16+5+4 his rookie season. Shoots 34% from deep on over 4 attempts per game so there's definitely something to work with. His overall efficiency were better than Ant’s rookie year and people expected him to make that second year jump into stardom but he simply hasn't.

And in his defense, Monty isn't exactly the type of coach known for player relation/development.

I see a buy low opportunity here for the Jazz to bring some much needed talent to their backcourt.


View: https://youtu.be/xQqXAZ1uwoQ?si=WyIXKVjZHbrypsm7

No thanks, low IQ. Less talented bigger Collin Sexton
 
No thanks, low IQ. Less talented bigger Collin Sexton
Remember how guys here raving about Keynotes high basketball IQ? Here's Ivey 13assists game with just one turnover.

View: https://youtu.be/maLao1QNIfw?si=R25GWpvyx-E5cJJD


He also recorded 12 assists against Washington, 11 assists against the Bucks and 10 assists against Toronto.

Ivey averaged 5.2 assists per game his rookie season and that's more than Sexton and Clarkson have averaged their whole career.
 
Remember how guys here raving about Keynotes high basketball IQ? Here's Ivey 13assists game with just one turnover.

View: https://youtu.be/maLao1QNIfw?si=R25GWpvyx-E5cJJD


He also recorded 12 assists against Washington, 11 assists against the Bucks and 10 assists against Toronto.

Ivey averaged 5.2 assists per game his rookie season and that's more than Sexton and Clarkson have averaged their whole career.

IDK whenever I have watched him he is out of control and just barreling into guys and doesnt know how to play off the ball. Dribbles the air out of the ball.

He has good percentages but cant really see the court. HIs coach must agree with me to some extent as he has had his minutes cut to 20 mpg from 31 his rookie season.

It's not a strong opinion I have, and could definitely be wrong, but whenever I've seen him this season I've been unimpressed. He wouldnt be a buy low. He's in his 2nd year and hasn't disappointed that hard where he woudl take a big stock hit. He's not hte kind of guard I would want to invest in next to Keyonte.
 
Remember how guys here raving about Keynotes high basketball IQ? Here's Ivey 13assists game with just one turnover.

View: https://youtu.be/maLao1QNIfw?si=R25GWpvyx-E5cJJD


He also recorded 12 assists against Washington, 11 assists against the Bucks and 10 assists against Toronto.

Ivey averaged 5.2 assists per game his rookie season and that's more than Sexton and Clarkson have averaged their whole career.

Im not sure that video is a good sales pitch....
 
The Detroit coach would rather give Killian Hayes 30 mpg than Jaden Ivey at 20 mpg.

IDK, maybe he's just off his rocker, but Monty is widely considered one of the better coaches in the NBA.
 
IDK whenever I have watched him he is out of control and just barreling into guys and doesnt know how to play off the ball. Dribbles the air out of the ball.

He has good percentages but cant really see the court. HIs coach must agree with me to some extent as he has had his minutes cut to 20 mpg from 31 his rookie season.

It's not a strong opinion I have, and could definitely be wrong, but whenever I've seen him this season I've been unimpressed. He wouldnt be a buy low. He's in his 2nd year and hasn't disappointed that hard where he woudl take a big stock hit. He's not hte kind of guard I would want to invest in next to Keyonte.
I mean he was a rookie last season so playing out of control at times was kinda expected. And at the same time his explosiveness, athleticism and energy he can bring onto the floor is simply something you can't reach to other less talented guards like THT.

And I wouldn't take too much from his PT being cut as he's dealing with Monty, who's had similar beef with Austin Rivers in NOLA and Ayton in Phoenix. It has nothing to do with their talent or skills. It's just Monty. In some ways he's worse than Quin and would only play young guys who can defend.
 
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