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Sardines said:
Anyone else think the debate tomorrow determines the election?
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No. Definitely not. Trump haters are still going to hate Trump. Trump supporters are still going to support Trump. The needle will barely move but in the end it doesn't matter because the system has been changed to where a GOP candidate cannot win a national election even if he had a 10-point lead in the polls. The 2024 election was decided in 2020. The 2028 election was decided in 2020. The 2032 election was decided in 2020.

Biden could have a heart attack on stage and die, and Trump would still lose the election. They might not even replace him. We'd just have 4 years of Weekend at Biden's.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
No. Definitely not. Trump haters are still going to hate Trump. Trump supporters are still going to support Trump. The needle will barely move but in the end it doesn't matter because the system has been changed to where a GOP candidate cannot win a national election even if he had a 10-point lead in the polls. The 2024 election was decided in 2020. The 2028 election was decided in 2020. The 2032 election was decided in 2020.

Biden could have a heart attack on stage and die, and Trump would still lose the election. They might not even replace him. We'd just have 4 years of Weekend at Biden's.
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You are silly

But since it's already decided you probably shouldn't even vote. Also should probably tell all your friends not to vote.
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fishonjazz said:
You are silly

But since it's already decided you probably shouldn't even vote. Also should probably tell all your friends not to vote.
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I live in coastal California. With the polls opening in 4 months, I think CNN has already called the race and put all of our delegates in the Dem column. ...but at least the weather is awesome.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Yes, FORTUNE ****ING MAGAZINE is a great source for this topic. You’re trolling is either epic or dense….


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It's dense. He goes too heavy-handed then engages his alts when he's not getting the response he wants so he can try to protect his main.
 
Pisses me off that Biden is the one running against trump. If anyone else was debating trump tonight then I would already know that they would win the debate easily. With Biden being the one to debate him im worried. It shouldn't be that way. Trump is an idiot. A moron. A buffoon. Imagine Obama debating trump tonight lol. Trump would look like a complete imbecile. He wouldn't have a chance in hell to look even a little bit intelligent. In fact I dont think there is a chance in hell trump would be foolish enough to even show up in this debate if he were going against Obama (or mayor pete, or elizabeth warren, or bernie, etc). But since he is debating Biden I have to be worried that trump might actually look good in comparison. So sad.
 
Sardines said:
Anyone else think the debate tomorrow determines the election?
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I think largely it's already decided for so many people that anything short of one of them full on violently ******** themselves and having a complete meltdown on the order of a grand mal it will do little to change the actual outcome.

Here is my prediction. Both will have enough gaffes and senior moments for both sides to claim him victory and cut together sound-bites of the other looking stupid that it'll feed he news cycle until the very day of the election. Both will claim full unequivocal victory. Both will deride the pundits who point out that Biden looks more presidential than expected, you know since we all expect him to spend the entire time being wrangled back to the podium by his handlers while he wanders and ***** himself and randomly strings words together like your grandpa with dementia, and that Trump looks more unhinged than we actually expected, but of course it's just his utter brilliance that he finally embraces flat earth and assumes that all Europeans are really fairy woodland creatures who eat sunbeams and **** greenhouse gasses or something equally insane, and Fox News cuts it heavily and spins it that it's a metaphor for being hard on immigration for some reason.

Anyway that's largely how it'll go.
 
fishonjazz said:
Huh?
I hate trump. Hated him prior to him becoming a Republican or a politician. He is a big corporation.
That's basically my politics right there. I don't support any wars. I think culture wars are so stupid and don't participate. I don't know what DEI even is or means. I got a recent tetanus vaccine (rusty barbwire got me while fishing) I guess that means something significant to you for some reason? I dont really care about abortion. My wife and I won't be pregnant ever again. If we were to be pregnant then I think we should be able to make decisions for ourselves. Do I support ugly Hollywood politicians without skepticism? I have no idea what that means.

A swing and a miss from your crazy ***

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Dude you're engaging with a troll again. Come on Grandpa, let's return those gift cards and get a diet Coke from Maverick.
 
Sardines said:
Anyone else think the debate tomorrow determines the election?
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Saw polls saying about 41% of independents will watch, so I’d say most know what their plans are by now. More partisans will watch, hoping to see their man “win”.
 
fishonjazz said:
Pisses me off that Biden is the one running against trump. If anyone else was debating trump tonight then I would already know that they would win the debate easily. With Biden being the one to debate him im worried. It shouldn't be that way. Trump is an idiot. A moron. A buffoon. Imagine Obama debating trump tonight lol. Trump would look like a complete imbecile. He wouldn't have a chance in hell to look even a little bit intelligent. In fact I dont think there is a chance in hell trump would be foolish enough to even show up in this debate if he were going against Obama (or mayor pete, or elizabeth warren, or bernie, etc). But since he is debating Biden I have to be worried that trump might actually look good in comparison. So sad.
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I think Biden will be well prepared. People expected the worst in the last State of Union address, and he did very well, at least compared to so many expectations. Trump, as expected, is acknowledging Biden may do well, moderators will not do well by Trump, and in the last analysis he’ll probably end up saying “it was a rigged debate”. At any rate, Trump is busy lowering expectations. But, we’ll see.
 
LogGrad98 said:
It's dense. He goes too heavy-handed then engages his alts when he's not getting the response he wants so he can try to protect his main.
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Yep. Exactly this. He goes to Bentley and Mongoose to try to stir the pot. It’s just so obvious
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think largely it's already decided for so many people that anything short of one of them full on violently ******** themselves and having a complete meltdown on the order of a grand mal it will do little to change the actual outcome.

Here is my prediction. Both will have enough gaffes and senior moments for both sides to claim him victory and cut together sound-bites of the other looking stupid that it'll feed he news cycle until the very day of the election. Both will claim full unequivocal victory. Both will deride the pundits who point out that Biden looks more presidential than expected, you know since we all expect him to spend the entire time being wrangled back to the podium by his handlers while he wanders and ***** himself and randomly strings words together like your grandpa with dementia, and that Trump looks more unhinged than we actually expected, but of course it's just his utter brilliance that he finally embraces flat earth and assumes that all Europeans are really fairy woodland creatures who eat sunbeams and **** greenhouse gasses or something equally insane, and Fox News cuts it heavily and spins it that it's a metaphor for being hard on immigration for some reason.

Anyway that's largely how it'll go.
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Imagine how stupid one has to be right now to be “undecided.” As if something said now will convince someone one way or another that the previous… 10 years hasn’t already addressed. This is really dumb. And I sorta wish the Biden campaign had insisted that Trump not be muted. Let Trump ramble on for the entire debate. Giving Trump unfiltered air time to show the world how unhinged he is is the best Biden ad one can have.
 
The Thriller said:
Yep. Exactly this. He goes to Bentley and Mongoose to try to stir the pot. It’s just so obvious
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Yep its round and round we go with the accusations. It's the same game plan for probably decades from you idiots. I've seen it play out a number of times in just a few months. If nothing else the accusations give you all an excuse to ignore people that you don't agree with.
I cant imagine how somebody as engaged as thriller could possibly have time for an alt account. I'm not sure how thriller could be holding down a full time job over the last few decades on top of his time commitment to jazzfanz. He is probably so overweight he is on disability and spends his workday here. He probably started on his quest to get people to vote blue no matter who out of fear that his disability checks would dry up if people stopped voting democrat, and then it eventually just turned into a full-on brain virus cult thinking. Nobody could possibly stay engaged with thriller and the circle jerkers and still have time for an alt account.
 
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Red said:
I think Biden will be well prepared. People expected the worst in the last State of Union address, and he did very well, at least compared to so many expectations. Trump, as expected, is acknowledging Biden may do well, moderators will not do well by Trump, and in the last analysis he’ll probably end up saying “it was a rigged debate”. At any rate, Trump is busy lowering expectations. But, we’ll see.
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Trump could call the moderators caulk suckers and then when they cut his mic and tell him that his comment was inappropriate he would cry that they were not fair to him.

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The Thriller said:
Imagine how stupid one has to be right now to be “undecided.” As if something said now will convince someone one way or another that the previous… 10 years hasn’t already addressed. This is really dumb. And I sorta wish the Biden campaign had insisted that Trump not be muted. Let Trump ramble on for the entire debate. Giving Trump unfiltered air time to show the world how unhinged he is is the best Biden ad one can have.
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I hope that when Trump is muted the TV viewers will still be able to see him yelling and ranting and raving even if they can't hear him.

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fishonjazz said:
I hope that when Trump is muted the TV viewers will still be able to see him yelling and ranting and raving even if they can't hear him.

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They should really do this split screen so both are on screen at all times. Would make it far more interesting.
 
Red said:
I think Biden will be well prepared. People expected the worst in the last State of Union address, and he did very well, at least compared to so many expectations. Trump, as expected, is acknowledging Biden may do well, moderators will not do well by Trump, and in the last analysis he’ll probably end up saying “it was a rigged debate”. At any rate, Trump is busy lowering expectations. But, we’ll see.
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Yup, classic Rapist garbage. Always playing games. The most dishonest man in the history of politics.
 
fishonjazz said:
Trump could call the moderators caulk suckers and then when they cut his mic and tell him that his comment was inappropriate he would cry that they were not fair to him.

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Hell, he could shoot one of them and be praised a hero by his rabid cult. No matter what the spin doctors at Fox Propaganda will be working overtime on this one.
 
Red said:
Saw polls saying about 41% of independents will watch, so I’d say most know what their plans are by now. More partisans will watch, hoping to see their man “win”.
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Plans could change.
I'm going to be watching because of all the talk about Biden having dementia. I mean I'd vote for a bald cat before I'd vote for Trump but I want to square reality with what so many people are saying about Biden's mental state.
 
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