Step-Back Lauri
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That was not the point...
Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics
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Al-O-Meter
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The point is free and fair elections can happen even in a time of war.
Zelensky has made himself dictator of Ukraine via a declaration of martial law. I believe Marco Rubio when he says Zelensky is a liar and working counter to ending the war in Ukraine.
Did you read this on Facebook?
We’re one of the younger countries on the planet, have lost more wars than won, and haven’t fought a justified one since WW2.
Like a tween telling adults how the world works.
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Al-O-Meter
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No Grandpa, I'm not 80.
Trump is such a bitch. Macron's bitch. Go to 5:13. Heck, watch all of it.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC7fluy9RmA
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC7fluy9RmA
Mongoose
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You all gonna be okay without Joy? I’m especially worried about fish. Where will he get his propaganda now?
I miss when she had Trump hair. She’s got a bad case of tds much like those bluanons here.
View: https://x.com/immeme0/status/1894207312224559516?s=46&t=PfGBft52CF1a98VsjZzilw
I miss when she had Trump hair. She’s got a bad case of tds much like those bluanons here.
View: https://x.com/immeme0/status/1894207312224559516?s=46&t=PfGBft52CF1a98VsjZzilw
I would argue that Gulf War 1 was justified, in that we were protecting Kuwait.
Red
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Former Secretary of the Air Force, telling it exactly as it is. Just saw the man speak, and this is a man who recognizes, clearly, what we are seeing in front of our eyes. I hope, I expect, his view to grow more widespread. That might not be the case, were it not for sights like Elon’s chainsaw massacre, and Trump’s rhetorical standing shoulder to shoulder with Putin’s lies and propaganda. Jaw dropping betrayal.
Last paragraph says it all.
President Trump’s decision to fire senior military leaders without cause is foolish and a disgrace. It politicizes our professional military in a dangerous and debilitating way. What frightens me even more is the removal of three judge advocates general, the most senior uniformed legal authorities in the Defense Department. Their removal is one more element of this administration’s attack on the rule of law, and an especially disturbing part.
……the consequences of removing the military’s top judge advocates general, the senior military professionals who interpret and enforce the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the rules that guide troops in the field. They have the independent legal authority to tell any military commander or political appointee that an order from the president or the secretary of defense is unlawful, cannot be given and should not be obeyed.
If there is one characteristic of this president and this administration, it is the utter lack of respect for legal constraints. Mr. Trump has been clear about his views. Among many examples, he recently wrote, “He who saves his country does not violate any law.” It is clear from Mr. Hegseth’s confirmation hearing, public appearances, writings and support for convicted war criminals that he also does not believe JAG officers should constrain war fighters — or presumably the president and secretary of defense.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will now get to choose the JAG leadership for all three military departments. One has to ask why JAG leadership was singled out for replacement. This is part of a much larger pattern of disrespect, even disdain, for the rule of law. We do not need JAG leaders who fit this pattern.
Our country is in uncharted territory. We have an administration that is waging war against the rule of law. The evidence is everywhere. We don’t yet know how far it will go as it seeks to control, reinterpret, rewrite, ignore or defy legal constraints, including the Constitution itself. The replacement of the military JAG leadership is one skirmish in that war, but it’s time for the American people, across the political spectrum, to recognize what is happening. America has a rogue president and a rogue administration, and we need to acknowledge that and respond.
Last paragraph says it all.
President Trump’s decision to fire senior military leaders without cause is foolish and a disgrace. It politicizes our professional military in a dangerous and debilitating way. What frightens me even more is the removal of three judge advocates general, the most senior uniformed legal authorities in the Defense Department. Their removal is one more element of this administration’s attack on the rule of law, and an especially disturbing part.
……the consequences of removing the military’s top judge advocates general, the senior military professionals who interpret and enforce the Uniform Code of Military Justice, the rules that guide troops in the field. They have the independent legal authority to tell any military commander or political appointee that an order from the president or the secretary of defense is unlawful, cannot be given and should not be obeyed.
If there is one characteristic of this president and this administration, it is the utter lack of respect for legal constraints. Mr. Trump has been clear about his views. Among many examples, he recently wrote, “He who saves his country does not violate any law.” It is clear from Mr. Hegseth’s confirmation hearing, public appearances, writings and support for convicted war criminals that he also does not believe JAG officers should constrain war fighters — or presumably the president and secretary of defense.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will now get to choose the JAG leadership for all three military departments. One has to ask why JAG leadership was singled out for replacement. This is part of a much larger pattern of disrespect, even disdain, for the rule of law. We do not need JAG leaders who fit this pattern.
Our country is in uncharted territory. We have an administration that is waging war against the rule of law. The evidence is everywhere. We don’t yet know how far it will go as it seeks to control, reinterpret, rewrite, ignore or defy legal constraints, including the Constitution itself. The replacement of the military JAG leadership is one skirmish in that war, but it’s time for the American people, across the political spectrum, to recognize what is happening. America has a rogue president and a rogue administration, and we need to acknowledge that and respond.
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This is literally the first time I have ever saw or heard the name Joy Reid lol. I have never watched MSNBC. I don't even know how to watch it if I wanted to.
Another swing and a miss
Al-O-Meter
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Sure that I'm not 80 and don't read anything on Facebook? Yes, very sure.
Al-O-Meter
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There were a series of UN resolutions (12 of them, I believe) to kick him out. He invaded a sovereign nation, after all. I mean, did we go in harder that we would have if it weren't an oil region? Probably. But the invasion wouldn't have happened if it weren't an oil region, anyway.
Sardines
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I agree with the sentiment but the U.S. is actually the most practically experienced warfighting nation on the planet. Since WWII not a generation has gone by that hasn't engaged in significant warfighting. Our military leaders learned from people who were in real wars, and they learned from people who were in real wars, and they learned from people who were in real wars... U.S. warfighting ability is honestly underrated. We may be the new kid on the block, but we are bringing a different level to the game.
Sardines
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Pretty sure it was Saudi Arabia telling us to because they were scared of Iraq.
And yeah, none of it happens if there isn't oil.
Red
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Loyalists to Trump everywhere. We had to expect this. Right? We could see what was going to happen from the start, correct? Could predict it all from 1/6/21 onward, we knew the Strongman playbook would include loyalty to Trump, and not loyalty to the constitution. We have reached Banana Republic status.
View: https://x.com/tbailey1976/status/1894125641701691581
Apologists for authoritarianism will always be able to justify the actions of the leader, and will always be blind to the obvious. Always ignorant of history.
This is what creating “the enemy within” can do in a society. The Big Lie. The enemy within. Not like such a playbook was unheard of in history. Those who embrace it as justified should be ashamed of themselves, for the wholesale abandonment of truth and Justice it represents, but most likely, as history shows, that shame will have to wait for history to assign. So many Americans sleepwalking through their own time, all too human, insistent on learning the hard way.
View: https://x.com/tbailey1976/status/1894125641701691581
Apologists for authoritarianism will always be able to justify the actions of the leader, and will always be blind to the obvious. Always ignorant of history.
This is what creating “the enemy within” can do in a society. The Big Lie. The enemy within. Not like such a playbook was unheard of in history. Those who embrace it as justified should be ashamed of themselves, for the wholesale abandonment of truth and Justice it represents, but most likely, as history shows, that shame will have to wait for history to assign. So many Americans sleepwalking through their own time, all too human, insistent on learning the hard way.
Step-Back Lauri
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I knew you were
He didn't come up with the martial law, but you're either an idiot or pro Russian/Trump regime troll so that's about it.
He's made less constitutionally iffy things in years than Trump in weeks.
And for the moderators of this board: do we really need this troll in JF? The only purpose this person plays for anymore is parroting pro dictatorship propaganda now. We don't need it.
He didn't come up with the martial law, but you're either an idiot or pro Russian/Trump regime troll so that's about it.
He's made less constitutionally iffy things in years than Trump in weeks.
And for the moderators of this board: do we really need this troll in JF? The only purpose this person plays for anymore is parroting pro dictatorship propaganda now. We don't need it.
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