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Following Potential 2025 Draftees

SoberasHotRod said:
Is Noa a wing or a really thin big?

Fears just has to get more efficient at what he's already shown. Noa has to become a completely different player than what he has already shown. I have to use way more imagination for Noa, which makes me much less confident.

I don't want either at 5, but Noa would be the much bigger reach.
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Noa is ultimately a 4/3. His best position will be at the 4, but he can play the 3 as well.
Fears is small, and he'll likely have some defensive limitations. It takes some imagination to project he'll be a big-time scorer and playmaker in the NBA.
I think that if the Jazz don't want Ace at #5, some other teams will and the Jazz will be looking at a trade-back scenario. Maybe it's Washington. Maybe it's Brooklyn.
Wait til we see what Noa's draft stock looks like when he finishes his season and starts working out for teams. He's long, athletic and has some handling/passing/shooting to go with his defense.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Noa is ultimately a 4/3. His best position will be at the 4, but he can play the 3 as well.
Fears is small, and he'll likely have some defensive limitations. It takes some imagination to project he'll be a big-time scorer and playmaker in the NBA.
I think that if the Jazz don't want Ace at #5, some other teams will and the Jazz will be looking at a trade-back scenario. Maybe it's Washington. Maybe it's Brooklyn.
Wait til we see what Noa's draft stock looks like when he finishes his season and starts working out for teams. He's long, athletic and has some handling/passing/shooting to go with his defense.
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A trade back scenario would make more sense, even though I would still hate it.

If this was last year and there were so few upside guys I might be down. This year there are just way more upside guys that I like more.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
It doesn't feel like 12pts/5reb/1ast in one of the less good European leagues is great production, but I don't have a super great feel for this.

I know that Killian Hayes was a completely different prospect, but he was averaging 12pts/2reb/6ast on the same team.
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right and even he has been an nba rotation player his entire career - exactly what i'm referring to by high floor.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
If I try to read some tea leaves here, the Jazz may really want Tre Johnson, enough to trade up with Philadelphia. However, a deal with Philly may be too difficult to put together. If the Jazz think Edgecombe goes at 4 to Charlotte (like almost everyone else seems to think) and the Jazz have concerns about Ace Bailey, then that would explain why they'd look at Jeremiah Fears or even Kon Knueppel.

In other words, the Jazz may not be comfortable with Ace for one reason or another and he may be the guy most likely to slip to #5.
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If we don't want Ace might as well just trade down. Fears is not worth the #5 pick.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I kinda really wanna get VJ and CMB somehow, then just suck *** because our offense is awful but at least we’re tough and developing an identity. We can develop/build out the shooting/offense down the line.
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The Thunder are proving that there is validity in building defense-first. You gotta still care about spacing while you do it, but if you’ve done those two things, you’re a star away from playoffs and maybe winning some rounds.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
How does Essengue compare to Ousman Dieng?
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Better motor, better defensive reactions, more aggressive getting to the rim as a starting point. I don't have stats on hand, but I'd assume rim finishing is a differentiator, both in terms of volume and efficiency. He's better off the dribble in general. Another factor is passing ability that he's started to show later in the season.
 
Ousmane Dieng was a chucker. All he did was shoot long jump shots. He didn’t make any, but I guess the intrigue was that he was taking them at his size. Dieng is/was a a bad perimeter player with size.

Essengue really plays like a big. The percentage of his points that come from dunks and FT’s has to be some kind of record.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He's a lotto talent. Clear as day
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The angle of the pass he makes at the 2:50 mark is only possible because he's 7+ feet tall. Meaning he's basically one of a few people on the earth that can pass like that.

I've seen enough to believe in his ability to play drop on defense and his ability to be a very high level passing big. I think that's enough to keep him on the court for 15 minutes a game.

Yeah, very interesting.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
The angle of the pass he makes at the 2:50 mark is only possible because he's 7+ feet tall. Meaning he's basically one of a few people on the earth that can pass like that.

I've seen enough to believe in his ability to play drop on defense and his ability to be a very high level passing big. I think that's enough to keep him on the court for 15 minutes a game.

Yeah, very interesting.
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He has the Jokic skill of handling the ball like it's Water Polo
 
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