Following Potential 2025 Draftees

[Handlogten's Heros]

Okay... one more. Through a series of trades you can swap 5 and 21 for 7 and 10. What do you prefer?

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Every context is different. Tre will have an easier time getting to the rim/in the paint on Utah than he would in the SEC on Texas.

Finishing is harder in the NBA, for the most part (depending on who you play), but the act of getting there is easier in the NBA.

When players get to the NBA, they (not all of course) greatly improve their finishing because it's such an important part of being a NBA player.

I’ve seen five full Tre games now. He can get to the rim but not a good finisher inside.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I’ve seen five full Tre games now. He can get to the rim but not a good finisher inside.

Some of his shots at the rim are an adventure to say the least

 

[stitches]

Okay... one more. Through a series of trades you can swap 5 and 21 for 7 and 10. What do you prefer?

I guess it depends on who's there at those spots for us to take. If Edgecombe or Ace are there at 5 I think I would take 5 and 21. If they are not... maybe 7 and 10...

 

[Basketball Novice]

If you are cool/indifferent on Tre/Kon and can pick up another pick... there is no such thing as too many picks.

Another one... NOP offer 7 and the Indiana 2026 they own for 5. Same deal. You have to do it before the draft starts.

No, only because the Indiana 2026 will be a very late 1st. Don't think a late 20s pick a year later is worth it.

Okay... one more. Through a series of trades you can swap 5 and 21 for 7 and 10. What do you prefer?

Yes, getting 2 guys in the 6-10 range would be great. There would be some interesting combo picks. Would be a combination of a Guard + something else. Kas or Fears or Kon + Noa or Maluach or Queen.
The possibilities would be interesting.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Every context is different. Tre will have an easier time getting to the rim/in the paint on Utah than he would in the SEC on Texas.

Finishing is harder in the NBA, for the most part (depending on who you play), but the act of getting there is easier in the NBA.

When players get to the NBA, they (not all of course) greatly improve their finishing because it's such an important part of being a NBA player.

It makes sense that it would be situational, although I can't think of any examples where someone said it would happen and it actually happens.

At this point I distrust that comment so much that I won't factor it in to my analysis of a player at all. Maybe in the future I'll understand the nuances better and be able to give it more thought.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I guess it depends on who's there at those spots for us to take. If Edgecombe or Ace are there at 5 I think I would take 5 and 21. If they are not... maybe 7 and 10...

Lets say Ace and VJ are gone at 5 in this scenario.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Wizards come to you before the draft. Offer 6 and 18 for 5 BUT you have to take the trade right now before knowing what the board looks like. You doing it?

Only if they tell me who they’re targeting.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Wizards come to you before the draft. Offer 6 and 18 for 5 BUT you have to take the trade right now before knowing what the board looks like. You doing it?

No. There are other ways to move up from 21, and there's no reason to compromise the #5 pick in advance. I also don't think packaging 5 + 18 to move up is much different from packaging 5 + 21. The deal you describe is something the Jazz would agree to when they're on the clock, assuming they want Fears or Kon.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No, only because the Indiana 2026 will be a very late 1st. Don't think a late 20s pick a year later is worth it.



Yes, getting 2 guys in the 6-10 range would be great. There would be some interesting combo picks. Would be a combination of a Guard + something else. Kas or Fears or Kon + Noa or Maluach or Queen.
The possibilities would be interesting.

One of my offseason goals is to acquire a pick or swap with a western conference team that is trying to make the playoffs in 2026. So many have encumbered picks that I would be trying to acquire another 2026 pick that is worse than ours to utilize in the swap. I'd be trying to do something with Denver, Dallas, LA on a 2026 swap with that pick... since they will be semi-desperate to do something and the cupboards are a little skant.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No. There are other ways to move up from 21, and there's no reason to compromise the #5 pick in advance. I also don't think packaging 5 + 18 to move up is much different from packaging 5 + 21. The deal you describe is something the Jazz would agree to when they're on the clock, assuming they want Fears or Kon.

If they want Fears or Kon they should have no issue doing the deal. Those guys will be there at 5 or 6. That's the exact scenario I do the deal.

 

[Basketball Novice]

I'm surprised so many are saying no to some of these deals. I don't think the 3-5 (Tre, VJ, Ace) are out and out better players than the others 6-10. Dropping 1 spot to get the 18th pick seems more than worth it.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Only if they tell me who they’re targeting.

And I think there is an opportunity to milk info from teams that might be looking to get to 5. IDK it was just a thought that if you wanted Kon over Tre/Fears/Queen etc. that you might be able to get your guy and get a decent mid round pick.

Maybe you can use 18/21 to move up or maybe you just take two swings.

 

[Basketball Novice]

One of my offseason goals is to acquire a pick or swap with a western conference team that is trying to make the playoffs in 2026. So many have encumbered picks that I would be trying to acquire another 2026 pick that is worse than ours to utilize in the swap. I'd be trying to do something with Denver, Dallas, LA on a 2026 swap with that pick... since they will be semi-desperate to do something and the cupboards are a little skant.

Ohhhhh, I see. Your idea makes alot more sense now. That's some big brain stuff right there.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If they want Fears or Kon they should have no issue doing the deal. Those guys will be there at 5 or 6. That's the exact scenario I do the deal.

There's a possibility, albeit small, that Kon and Fears are both gone before 6. So in the interest of mathematical certainty, the Jazz would still do the Wizards deal after the first 3 or 4 picks have been made. I'm assuming that the Jazz will have "their guy" that they want, whomever that turns out to be, and they'll make sure they get their guy.

Also, what if the Sixers offer the Jazz #3 for #5 and #21 when the Sixers are on the clock and find that the guy they wanted at #3 is no longer available? The Jazz will wait and see how the draft plays out. The Washington deal isn't good enough to commit to in advance, imo.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It makes sense that it would be situational, although I can't think of any examples where someone said it would happen and it actually happens.

At this point I distrust that comment so much that I won't factor it in to my analysis of a player at all. Maybe in the future I'll understand the nuances better and be able to give it more thought.

I think for all-star caliber players/great scorers, it's a real thing. But it's not universal and probably happens less than people think.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm surprised so many are saying no to some of these deals. I don't think the 3-5 (Tre, VJ, Ace) are out and out better players than the others 6-10. Dropping 1 spot to get the 18th pick seems more than worth it.

IDK about VJ, but Tre/Ace definitely are.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Okay... one more. Through a series of trades you can swap 5 and 21 for 7 and 10. What do you prefer?

Yeah, I would probably due that, mostly because I'm so high on Kas and it seems like he'll be available there. I'm not sure if I would want DA to do that though.

I'm not sure who I would target with the 10th pick as I'm not sure who would fit the Jazz and I like in that range. Maybe CMB? He might not fit the Jazz (or the NBA in general), but I absolutely love him.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

If you are cool/indifferent on Tre/Kon and can pick up another pick... there is no such thing as too many picks.

Another one... NOP offer 7 and the Indiana 2026 they own for 5. Same deal. You have to do it before the draft starts.

I would like more picks in 2026, but not sure Indiana is a team to bet against? I guess there is a Turner question coming up there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There's a possibility, albeit small, that Kon and Fears are both gone before 6. So in the interest of mathematical certainty, the Jazz would still do the Wizards deal after the first 3 or 4 picks have been made. I'm assuming that the Jazz will have "their guy" that they want, whomever that turns out to be, and they'll make sure they get their guy.

Also, what if the Sixers offer the Jazz #3 for #5 and #21 when the Sixers are on the clock and find that the guy they wanted at #3 is no longer available? The Jazz will wait and see how the draft plays out. The Washington deal isn't good enough to commit to in advance, imo.

If Kon or Fears are gone you go with one of the consensus top 5 guys. Like that is ideal.

I guess the question boils down to... if you think that tier is more like 3-7 or 3-8 and another team doesn't... would you capitalize on that? Once the draft starts Wiz may realize the guy they don't have to trade up. I also wanted to avoid the "depends on who's available" answer to the question... which is reasonable.

Like would you rather have Tre... or Kon and Sorber/Coward/Essengue/Fleming