Game Thread Nov 13, 2025 07:00PM MT: Atlanta Hawks @ Utah Jazz

[fishonjazz]

yeah, that's tough. we could quibble over whether or not they SHOULD include Harper in a deal, but there is zero chance that they will. teams always overvalue their young draftees, especially when they show some of the promise Harper has shown this season.

I mean, 14, 4 and 4 in 23 minutes a game on 50/36/83 splits. those numbers are better than stephon castle last year who was not only rookie of the year, but we see how good he's been this year. and as good as Castle has been, he's still at 23% from three. Harper already at 36% from three might be a rich man's Castle. It would be hard to trade that.

should they? maybe. will they? no chance in hell.

It's funny cause I always check box scores and multiple times this season can't even find Harper listed. Not even listed as dnp (for whatever reason)
Has he missed games due to injury this season?

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

It's funny cause I always check box scores and multiple times this season can't even find Harper listed. Not even listed as dnp (for whatever reason)
Has he missed games due to injury this season?

Yeah, he has a calf strain and will be back in a couple weeks.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

It's funny cause I always check box scores and multiple times this season can't even find Harper listed. Not even listed as dnp (for whatever reason)
Has he missed games due to injury this season?

yeah, he's dealt with an injury. so those stats are a small sample - only played 6 games so far.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Lauri's contract goes from a slight negative a overwhelming positive if he's averaging 29 PPG. The jazz aren't going to trade him for anything short of the same kind of package we got for Gobert/Mitchell.

This. We are absolutely at the point where the only Lauri trade that will happen is the one another team shouldn't do.

Literally everything I have heard outside of Zach Lowe is that they aren't moving him. Before the season and during the season. We likely manage his minutes/games on the back half of the season or as injuries dictate. We land around 5th-ish in odds (I'd prefer 4th) and hope to get lucky. From there we move towards being competitive.

If Lauri is traded it will be because we were bowled over and I doubt that happens.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

yup we are officially in that no-man's land where Lauri is a lot better and means more to us, than he can command from other teams. it would take a Harper type deal (or Ausar and a couple firsts) for the Jazz to move him and the Spurs/Pistons simply won't do that.

basically he's impossible to move and that means he's been incredible for utah.

 

[Tanktastic]

The Jazz were specifically leaving Okwongu wide open which seemed to be the game plan. It ended up not being a good game plan.

Also Kennard, Krejci and Johnson. So basically all their shooters.

Spurs should be offering Harper and a decent amount of picks imo. They have Fox and Castle. Dont need harper at all. Lauri would catapult them

Yeah. But no.

If Ainge calls and offers that, it will take 1/1000th of a second for them to hang up.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Spurs could get a Lauri deal done with Castle and a lot of their quality picks. Doesn't have to be Harper.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Spurs could get a Lauri deal done with Castle and a lot of their quality picks. Doesn't have to be Harper.

my dude is averaging 19, 6 and 8 - in his second season following up his ROY season - and he's a plus defender who can defend at least 3 positions. that's a pipe dream.

 

[fishonjazz]

I would rather have Castle to be honest. He is playing great. Great defender averaging 19 points, 8 assists, 6 rebounds and 2 steals. Gets to the line 7 times per game. Great size (6 foot 6) and just barely turned 21 years old. Yes please.

 

[fishonjazz]

my dude is averaging 19, 6 and 8 - in his second season following up his ROY season - and he's a plus defender who can defend at least 3 positions. that's a pipe dream.

You beat me to it.

Ya the reason I suggested Harper was because I was trying to be more realistic and choose the more likely trade scenario.

 

[slc]

Jazz already have three somewhat good PGs
What do they do if they get Castle or Harper?
They would have to make some more trades

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Jazz already have three somewhat good PGs
What do they do if they get Castle or Harper?
They would have to make some more trades

Yes and no. In some ways we have 3 somewhat good point guards, but another way to look at it is we have 2 combo guards and a point guard who can't shoot. I think Keyonte could easily play off of Harper or Castle and a Keyonte, Harper or Castle, Ace, Kessler, 2026 pick is the makings of a very promising young core.