Basketball_Romantic23
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Stevens would be a truly intersting hire... Truly intrigued as well, especially with the whole Hayward palyed for him in college story line.
Bring back Sloan.
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Stevens would be a truly intersting hire... Truly intrigued as well, especially with the whole Hayward palyed for him in college story line.
Basketball_Romantic23
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It is possible that SVG may not accept another coaching job because he knows that eventually the JAzz will part ways with Corbin, which will open up an opportunity for him to interview for the JAzz. I have got to think that after what happened in Orlando, SVG does not want to go to another franchise that gives the players too much power. Utah seems to fit the mold of a franchise that does not give players a ton of power.
Yes good thoughts.
Remember, he was also ousted in Miami when Shaq was there. Now Howard? Utah would be a good fit, except the fact that the FO likes to promote people from within rather than bring in outside help.
I mentioned Stevens months ago, and some were against it. Good to see that has changed a bit. Stevens gets max level production/wins for the talent given to him, every year. Some would argue that college coaching doesn't translate to the NBA and mention names like Calipari etc. I would agree that it doesn't always work. Is it worth a shot? Yes, Corbin is NOT the answer, he's like SLoan in some ways, just sucks a whole lot more.
Is it possible that retreading obviously flawed and out of work (evidence of the former) NBA head coaches isn't the way to go? How often has a fired head coach gone on to turn a team around and win a championship? I think there's considerable list of ex-head coaches out there better than Corbin, but I want the best. The only way that happens is if you get in on the ground floor.
As it pertains to Stevens, you really only worry about locker room stuff if you have strong-willed vets, and at this point, I'm hoping The Four become the "vets", the Jazz mine free agency for Tinsley-esque vets, the draft, and the D-League for guys that will do what it takes to win. Besides, Stevens already has a respected player in his corner in the locker room already. Also, Stevens calm demeanor is probably particularly suited for NBA players anyway.
As it pertains to Stevens, you really only worry about locker room stuff if you have strong-willed vets, and at this point, I'm hoping The Four become the "vets", the Jazz mine free agency for Tinsley-esque vets, the draft, and the D-League for guys that will do what it takes to win. Besides, Stevens already has a respected player in his corner in the locker room already. Also, Stevens calm demeanor is probably particularly suited for NBA players anyway.
If you have a group of guys with strong characters and whose characters canceled each other out (i.e., Westbrook & Durant, LeBron & Wade), then I don't know if you need a coach who is good at managing those egos.
X's and O's guys like Scotty Brooke and coach Spol' seems to do just fine with their respective teams.
X's and O's guys like Scotty Brooke and coach Spol' seems to do just fine with their respective teams.
vslice02
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It's ironic that people who are adamant about hiring a new, "modern" coach immediately have placed college coaches with no prior NBA experience at the top of their list – a pool which hasn't made a successful transition to NBA head coach in the past 20 years and in most cases has been an absolute disaster.
So sure, let’s replace the hole in the wall with a hole in the roof. I’m done dealing in hypotheticals because all this talk is meaningless if Corbin is back (which is still a very real possiblity), but I don't think it's wise to replace one bad coach with someone else with a high potential to flame out. Consecutive bad coaches is a franchise-wrecker. It’s one thing to gamble on young players’ potential – but gambling now on a young coach with no NBA experience to me is just as foolish as keeping Ty Corbin as head coach, not to mention the fact it has yet to work in the so-called "modern" era.
So sure, let’s replace the hole in the wall with a hole in the roof. I’m done dealing in hypotheticals because all this talk is meaningless if Corbin is back (which is still a very real possiblity), but I don't think it's wise to replace one bad coach with someone else with a high potential to flame out. Consecutive bad coaches is a franchise-wrecker. It’s one thing to gamble on young players’ potential – but gambling now on a young coach with no NBA experience to me is just as foolish as keeping Ty Corbin as head coach, not to mention the fact it has yet to work in the so-called "modern" era.
This would be my preference:
1. SVG
2. Popovich's protege
3.a Phil Johnson/Sloan --> then hand it over to Hornacek
3.b Hornacek (with experienced assistant, ex-HC ala McMillan)
4. Successful college coach with right fit (Calipari, Brad)
Replacing a head coach is a gamble any way you slice it. SVG (who has now been ousted twice) had Corbin's back for putting blinders on and playing vets strictly because of tenure and JVG has never run a good offense. Scott Skiles might break some players. So who then? 80-year-old Larry Brown? 80-year old Phil Johnson or Sloan? Hornacek, who is in not much of a different position than Ty was? Do we charge headfirst into the past?
I know the transition to the NBA hasn't worked in a while, but it's going to break sometime. Ultimately, good coaches are good, and Stevens/Crean are good. Nobody knew with Corbin.