ooooh.. tough decision.. I think if Schroeder's 3pt shot is legit, and I'm confident he can improve on his finish at the rim, I would probably take him over MCW.
He'll still be a bit raw, but I think his ceiling could be higher than MCW..
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ooooh.. tough decision.. I think if Schroeder's 3pt shot is legit, and I'm confident he can improve on his finish at the rim, I would probably take him over MCW.
He'll still be a bit raw, but I think his ceiling could be higher than MCW..
A-Train (old)
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Schroder is a great player. Probably going to have to use the #14 to get him. I think he is worth it. On the downside he needs to work on his free-throw shooting. It's horrific for a point guard.
who do you guys think has a higher ceiling? Schroeder vs Burke?
Park Bites
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Burke because he is a leader and a winner Schroeder is still unknown against tough competition.
Park Bites
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this could change
Westermann likely won't be able to guard anyone. Don't touch him in the first round.
It looks like he's already more of a PG than McCollum. And he's played in the last 6 months too.
Just for fun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-42vOzxQZN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-42vOzxQZN4
Park Bites
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how well does he speak English. although German and English is similar
Schroeder seems quite a bit quicker than Burke to me.. although Burke seems to have a better handle & feel for the game.
orangello
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Had to work. Here goes:
-My interest in a PG begins and eventually ends with whether they can play PnR or not. Why? Besides that as a fanbase, we should know just how effective it can be, I think it's the greatest play in basketball. It's simple enough to teach, but the fundamentals of the play with the right players are very difficult to guard. Within one idea and the right players, you can get just about any shot you want between the two players (assuming you don't have AK and Ronnie Brewer as your other "perimeter" players). It's the play that simultaneously makes your PG a threat and keeps others involved. IF I HAVE NOTHING ELSE in a point guard, I want them to be able to run a PnR. That this kid has a great feel for it is a terrific sign.
-Love the defensive potential/ability.
-Love that he has ENOUGH of a grip that he CAN shoot lights out. Maybe the numbers listed in that video are an aberration, but guys that cannot shoot can't do that. And he's young, so the general trend on shooting is likely only to improve anyway. HOWEVER, if a PG is lacking in the shooting department, you would certainly hope they have speed to still be able to put pressure on a sagging defense. If this kid has both? HOLY. ****.
-Worrying about mid-range is stupid at this juncture. For starters, he's very young. You should only be taking mid-range shots if you can't get anything in the paint (including a foul) or a 3. Don't get me wrong, mid-range is important. Mostly when the clamps come down and you need a guy to take whatever shot he can get (i.e. end of clock situations), but the Jazz aren't at a point where they need hero ball yet, and if you have a player that is a threat to get to the rim and can also hit threes, developing a mid-range game is probably more a matter of time than anything else.
-He needs to work on his ability to finish. Although I'm less concerned with that because he's getting to the line and PGs that burn their way to the basket commonly put their team at a disadvantage defensively as such baskets can lead the other team to answer by getting out in transition quicker (as PGs are usually the first guys back on D and PGs usually lead breaks). BUT, the defense HAS to react to a guy getting to the basket that fast, and that will get him to the line or likely open someone else up.
-He's YOUNG. And European basketball is not clearly inferior to college basketball. Is Schroeder's level of competition any less than that of Nate Wolter's, Damian Lillard's, Jimmer Fredette's, CJ McCollum's, etc?
-I'm not looking for a superstar necessarily. I'm looking for a guy that gets his team the best baskets possible. I see that here. The fact that he has the potential to be a HUGE impact player is almost gravy. The fact that he fits into a tanking scenario makes this all the more beautiful.
All that said, I really try not to get ahead of myself and I'm naturally averse to group think. I haven't seen almost any real-game footage and I'm not an expert. But that speed and PnR ability really impressed me. On top of that, the Jazz need a PG desperately and I am not excited about what will likely be left for the Jazz. Like, really not excited (sorry, I don't share the boner for McCollum).
Defensively, it's Schroeder. Offensively, it's Burke right now--better vision, timing, decision making.
orangello
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Nice write up. I hope you recorded the game from today because he showed the things that are important to you.
Most people in Germany speak English quite well (probably technically better than most Americans). And basketball's unofficial language is English as well. This is literally one of the least important things to be concerned about.
I don't think he speaks any English.. seems to understand it well though..
... is that gonna be a problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_iIUu2UDE
... is that gonna be a problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_iIUu2UDE