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"States that allow law-abiding citizens to carry concealed handguns enjoy a 60 percent decrease in multiple-victim public shootings and a 78 percent decrease in victims per attack.”

The facts speak for themselves. Taking away citizen's freedom is not the answer.

False statement. I see no data proving it.
Taking away citizens freedom to have guns works just fine in Japan.
 
Nice attempt to spin off into something else. We are not talking about the effectiveness of guns v. knives in killing.

You are not. Others arguing against gun control have raised that point. However, I respect your decision not to engage in that tangent.
 
You are not. Others arguing against gun control have raised that point. However, I respect your decision not to engage in that tangent.

All I saw was that they raised the point that you can use knives to kill as well. Where did they get into a comparison of which is more efficient?
 
Just curious, what is the solution? Stricter gun control laws, or taking the right to bear arms away altogether? Wasn't the reason we were given the right a form of protection against a standing army? Haven't a hundred or so countries existed under military dictatorships in the last 100 years and this is America's protection against that? Just wondering.
 
All I saw was that they raised the point that you can use knives to kill as well. Where did they get into a comparison of which is more efficient?

When you claim that gun control does not reduce the rate of homicides, the implication is that the other homicide methods will be just as efficient.
 
Just curious, what is the solution? Stricter gun control laws, or taking the right to bear arms away altogether? Wasn't the reason we were given the right a form of protection against a standing army? Haven't a hundred or so countries existed under military dictatorships in the last 100 years and this is America's protection against that? Just wondering.

Do you have any evidence that more guns means a dictatorship is less likely? Dictatorships seem to spring up, or not, regardless of the levels of guns in the population.
 
When you claim that gun control does not reduce the rate of homicides, the implication is that the other homicide methods will be just as efficient.

I see it as saying that gun control is simply ineffective.
 
Do you have any evidence that more guns means a dictatorship is less likely? Dictatorships seem to spring up, or not, regardless of the levels of guns in the population.

Regardless, protection from dictatorships was the reason for the 2nd Amendment's inclusion in the Bill of Rights. I'm not saying it's effective or ineffective, but it may be a contributing factor to our 237 years without devolving into something dictatorial. What I am wondering though is what is the solution to the problem that doesn't violate the constitutional intent?
 
Regardless, protection from dictatorships was the reason for the 2nd Amendment's inclusion in the Bill of Rights. I'm not saying it's effective or ineffective, but it may be a contributing factor to our 237 years without devolving into something dictatorial. What I am wondering though is what is the solution to the problem that doesn't violate the constitutional intent?

England hasn't devolved into something dictatorial, despite strict gun control for decades. Dictatorships sprang up in France even with well-armed populaces. I don't see a relationship.
 
What would the cause of the ineffectiveness be? Or, are you uninterested in the why, as long as you can support your point?

I think it is ineffective with stopping gun violence. For example the background checks that they were voting on would not have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting.

Yes guns are more effecient at killing than knives. Does not mean that knives are not deadly.
 
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