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What kind of player can Gobert be?

Hantlers said:
Realism isn't always more fun, but it is far more useful in life.
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I would rather talk about who he should model his game after and who he should aspire to be as great as.

I sure hope his coaches are not taking the realistic approach and saying "rudy we dont ever see you becoming as good as guys like noah or chandler so just watch this footage of hasheem thabeet and try to play like him."
 
fishonjazz said:
I would rather talk about who he should model his game after and who he should aspire to be as great as.

I sure hope his coaches are not taking the realistic approach and saying "rudy we dont ever see you becoming as good as guys like noah or chandler so just watch this footage of hasheem thabeet and try to play like him."
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Right…that's what I'm saying.

Look, I can model my game after LeBron James all I want, and no matter what I do, I ain't gonna be a player like LeBron James. I'm not saying he should try to play like Thabeet, I'm just saying I don't ever see him as being as good as Noah or Chandler. This ain't that difficult.
 
Hantlers said:
Right…that's what I'm saying.

Look, I can model my game after LeBron James all I want, and no matter what I do, I ain't gonna be a player like LeBron James. I'm not saying he should try to play like Thabeet, I'm just saying I don't ever see him as being as good as Noah or Chandler. This ain't that difficult.
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Im saying that people probably dont watch you play bball and think "man he looks and plays similar to lebron."

Im not saying Rudy is equal to chandler.

Im saying they are both over 7 feet tall, both good jumpers, both quick for thier size, both have good motors, both have good timing/instincts for shot blocking, both very limited offensively.

Dont see what the big deal is to say they are similar types of players and i could see rudy being like chandler in the future if he improves a good amount
 
I would be thrilled if he could be the next Mark Eaton, Mark Eaton lite that is. Like Eaton, Gobert has little to no offense. Gobert might have a slight edge in athletic ability, but not by much. The thing Eaton has over Gobert is a massive presence in post defense and being a lane clogged with his length and girth. I don't think Gobert will ever possess Eaton's strength, and body mass.
 
So strange that people think comparing two players means that i think they are equals.

Watching college bball i always hear announcers compare 19 year old kids to legendary hall of famers. (Embiid and olijuwan comp for example)

Dont see what the big deal is really.

Its not like im comparing gobert to jj reddick or kyle lowry or somebody without similarities
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I don't think Gobert will ever possess Eaton's strength, and body mass.
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Not bad but due to the sentence i quoted i think chandler is more likely.

I cant see him becoming super strong like eaton but i could see him getting as strong as chandler and being able to alot of the things chandler can do
 
Hantlers said:
We're really comparing Gobert to Noah and Chandler in this thread?

At some point in their careers, Noah and Chandler were top centers in the NBA. I should add that I think Noah currently is one of the top centers in the league…one of the top players overall.

I would be shocked if Gobert was anything close to those guys.
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Agree. Both Noah and Chandler are quicker athletic C's then Gobert. Gobert relies more on length then quickness and isn't very fluid in his movements more of a space eater.
 
Even if he never becomes much of a factor on offense, he could become a good enough defender and energy guy that certainly makes him a starting caliber center.

Right now, I still have hope that Favors and Kanter can learn to play together and have Gobert come off the bench. He could be a nasty 3rd big. Second units would have a really hard time scoring on this guy if he ever puts his defensive potential together.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I would be thrilled if he could be the next Mark Eaton, Mark Eaton lite that is. Like Eaton, Gobert has little to no offense. Gobert might have a slight edge in athletic ability, but not by much. The thing Eaton has over Gobert is a massive presence in post defense and being a lane clogged with his length and girth. I don't think Gobert will ever possess Eaton's strength, and body mass.
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His presence does seem to bother players though. He is definitely disruptive, he will probably be a decent shot blocker, he should get plenty of boards/putbacks, and he should be cheap for what we get. He will never be a starter but I'm high on Rudy off the bench.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
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I dont understand your vague question.

I think you are asking what things gobert might be able to do that is similar to what chandler has done in his career.

I think if he gets a bit stronger he should be able to be a defensive anchor and block lots of shots and alter even more. He should be able to score on putbacks and alleyoops after setting picks and rolling to the hoop. He should be able to set good solid screens to free teammates up for shots.
Basically all the things chandler can do
 
Chandler is a 9 point and 9 rebound type of player that plays GREAT defense.

I dont think that is impossible for rudy to achieve if he keeps working hard in the weight room and studies film and remains coachable and a hard worker
 
IMHO I think Rudy has the potential to be a better defensive player than either of them. Why the f... hasn't Ty given him more opportunities? Geezus, what is wrong with the FO? Give the guy minutes and let him develop.
 
I think he can be a tall player, with long arms, and a funny shaped kinda small head for his body.
 
fishonjazz said:
Noah is much too versatile, skilled, and has a great all around game.

I like the Chandler comparison alot more. (a defensive specialist and little else)
All chandler does is play great defense. He is not a ball handler, not a really great rebounder, not a very good passer, etc etc.
chandlers highest pt average for his career is 11 pts. (his career average is 8.7)
chandlers highest rebound average is 12.4 which is very good but in his 13 year career he only averaged over 10 rebounds per game 3 times. (his career average is 9.1)

Gobert should just model his game after chandler. Block/altering shots and getting alley oops and rebounds plus some garbage putbacks on the offensive glass
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Gobert has 1/10th the coordination of Tyson Chandler.

I think Gobert is like 1/100 on finishing easy dump off passes with mild lane traffic. Terrible, terrible hands.
 
Hantlers said:
We're really comparing Gobert to Noah and Chandler in this thread?

At some point in their careers, Noah and Chandler were top centers in the NBA. I should add that I think Noah currently is one of the top centers in the league…one of the top players overall.

I would be shocked if Gobert was anything close to those guys.
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Anyone comparing him to Noah should be put down Old Yeller style, same with Chandler comparison.

He is young though, so that means he has to get exponentially better until he reaches All-Star level. #JazzfanzLogic
 
fishonjazz said:
Not bad but due to the sentence i quoted i think chandler is more likely.

I cant see him becoming super strong like eaton but i could see him getting as strong as chandler and being able to alot of the things chandler can do
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Chandler is pretty freaking strong. Dude isn't huge, but he has a strong body and a low center of gravity. Tyson Chandler was probably stronger his rookie year (straight out of HS) than Gobert will ever be.

Gobert has chicken legs and a high center of gravity. It is a lot to overcome. I will be surprised if he ever becomes a guy who averages over 25 mpg in a season for his career. Think he can be really good and effective in his minutes he does play, like a smart/less athletic McGee.
 
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