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Marty McFly said:
1. We won't be in the same salary crunch in 3 years as we were this past offseason. If Al warrants a max deal it will be much easier to do so.
2. Nobody knows what's going to happen with max contracts. It's very possible they'll be much smaller by the time Al is a FA.
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True, but if they do drop, the Tax level will drop as well.

The only reason they want to drop the salaries to so that teams like Minnesota and Sacramento can actually afford to pay for a Marquee player.
 
Why is this discussion still going? Boozer is the best player to ever live. Yet, the Jazz never went anywhere with him on the team, and it was time to move on to a lesser player and maybe they'll magically do better (as the record clearly shows). Can we move on already?
 
siromar said:
Why is this discussion still going? Boozer is the best player to ever live. Yet, the Jazz never went anywhere with him on the team, and it was time to move on to a lesser player and maybe they'll magically do better (as the record clearly shows). Can we move on already?
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Because this is the official cheer thread for every time the Chicago Jazz help our seeding.
 
boozer is like the ex-girlfriend you want to see fail. That being said, it's good to see him playing agressive and actually doing something out there.
 
Marty McFly said:
1. We won't be in the same salary crunch in 3 years as we were this past offseason. If Al warrants a max deal it will be much easier to do so because we won't have an albatross AK on the books. We won't have Okur either.
2. Nobody knows what's going to happen with max contracts. It's very possible they'll be much smaller by the time Al is a FA.
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McFly is pwning this thread.
 
LunaticWolf said:
Steals > Blocks in a statistical sense.
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Maybe in a statistical sense. But blocks have a bigger impact on the game. Getting a block gets it into the mindset of the offensive man the next time he brings it in and for a while during the game. A steal can be written off as a bad play by the man who gets it stolen from him.
 
LunaticWolf said:
You realize we are in the same situation with Al? He will come off his contract at 28 looking for a 5 year close to max deal like Boozer got.
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....we will cut big Al loose so fast....your head will spin! We ain't maxin out a guy who although talented in some respects, can't figure out how to run a simple pick and roll with a guy who makes it easier than taste testing pies in a pie factory! Oh, I forgot! When Al's contract is up....the long NBA strike will be over....and these guys will be making less than half what they are getting paid now!!!
 
carolinajazz said:
....we will cut big Al loose so fast....your head will spin! We ain't maxin out a guy who although talented in some respects, can't figure out how to run a simple pick and roll with a guy who makes it easier than taste testing pies in a pie factory! Oh, I forgot! When Al's contract is up....the long NBA strike will be over....and these guys will be making less than half what they are getting paid now!!!
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And the tax will drop as well. Salary drop is irrelevant.
 
gregbroncs said:
Maybe in a statistical sense. But blocks have a bigger impact on the game. Getting a block gets it into the mindset of the offensive man the next time he brings it in and for a while during the game. A steal can be written off as a bad play by the man who gets it stolen from him.
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....not true, not true at all! A steal is better than a block. A steal gives you possession of the ball EVERY time! A block might or might not. Many blocked shots are retained by the team with the ball. They are able to score again. A steal more often results in points for the team who made the steal. You can't say that about blocked shots.
 
carolinajazz said:
....you mean punched the wall in a fit of anger....when told by his wife that he would be handing over at least half of that new contract he just signed as part of a divorce settlement....but does not include the other half.....that will be going for child support payments!
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The injury happened in October, divorce was filed for in August.

gregbroncs said:
That Phoenix game was as good as a playoff game and he sat out with a fake injury. He put up huge #'s and provided virtually nothing on the other end of the floor.
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I love how people always blame Boozer for this loss instead of the players who actually played in that game. And nobody gives the Suns credit. That was the best defense that I've seen them play in years. They just wanted it more.

VINYLONE said:
@ Sloany: Yo duder. Ive got your back. You know this. I mean, in general. But whats your argument regarding Bozzer. I dont understand. I mean, no one is saying the dude is NOT talented.
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I was upset when we lost him and still am, no doubt. Offensively Boozer is just better. Better shooter, better post up player, better fade away, better leader, much better rebounder, commands a double team, smarter. Turns the ball over a little more than Al, worse FT shooter. Sloan always spoke highy of Boozer too. Our offense was a hell of a lot better with Carlos. Also, D-Will has to do more offensively this year and if you've followed him closely you know he'd rather get others involved and take over when he has to. This season's improved defense cannot simple be atributed to the fact that we lost Boozer, we lost a bunch of other players and acquired a bunch of new ones. And the goof Fesenko plays more which does help defensively.

I think the Memo extension really killed us. I like Memo but he just has long stretches of consistency then long stretches of inconsistency. He really benefitted from Boozer's injury in 08-09 by having a career year. That said, I'm excited to get the guy back to see what he can do. He has always played well in Boozer's absence.

I hate how we give bums like Ostertag 5 years $39 Million, max contract to AK, who may have deserved it but should have been dealt for Marion in 2007 for his expiring, Memo's crappy extention (he's not a bum though), but we tell Boozer to go screw himself.

The Thriller said:
Personally, I love watching Jazz games now. I don't get headaches after hearing Boozer yell for the 1000th time in the same game...

AND ONE!!!

AHHHHHHH!

GET MINE GET MINE GET MINE! While jogging slowly pointing at his man sprinting in for a layup.
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I miss the yelling. In fact I do it all the time when I ball. GET IN THERE or GET THE **** IN THERE is my go to phrase.

unluckyseventeen said:
Bozzer looking great against an utterly piss poor Thunder front court. What a big surprise.
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Your buddy, The Thiller, whom I just found out within the last two weeks is O Gahtino, proudly declared Millsap better than Boozer last season after he put up big numbers against a lowly Sacramento Kings front court. Something like 30 and 12, but the Kings had probably the worst front court in the league last season.
 
carolinajazz said:
....not true, not true at all! A steal is better than a block. A steal gives you possession of the ball EVERY time! A block might or might not. Many blocked shots are retained by the team with the ball. They are able to score again. A steal more often results in points for the team who made the steal. You can't say that about blocked shots.
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And steals generally result in a fast break layup attempt on the other end.
 
I'm actually glad Boozer isn't on the team. The team as a whole seems to care more about winning opposed to contract talks and talks of what to do with their summer. Boozer only seemed to care about talking to the media.

Yeah he puts up good numbers, but the Laker Front line ate him alive, as will Boston's.
 
Marty McFly said:
It is not irrelevant at all. The Jazz are owned by real people and the players are paid in real dollars.
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It is irrelevant when talking about a specific player resigning with a team. Just because Al resigns for 8 million per doesn't mean **** when the luxury tax drops to 40 million.

Like I said earlier, they want to drop the salaries so smaller market teams actually have a chance to compete.
 
LunaticWolf said:
It is irrelevant when talking about a specific player resigning with a team. Just because Al resigns for 8 million per doesn't mean **** when the luxury tax drops to 40 million.

Like I said earlier, they want to drop the salaries so smaller market teams actually have a chance to compete.
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Smaller markets do have a chance to compete. Just because they are in LA or NY doesn't mean they necessarily want to spend over the Luxury Tax threshold either. Plenty of "small" market NBA teams made the playoffs and won championships in recent years. For instance, Cleveland is a small market (compared to NY or LA most places are.. and in terms of the NBA, Cleveland is one of the more smaller markets) Milwaukee and Utah are probably the NBA's smallest markets, both teams have high quality players and are competitive (Milwaukee's been bitten with an injury bug.. but they were in the playoff hunt last year.. which is what makes you "compete").

Utah even has one of the highest salaries in the NBA (6th according to hoopshype, spending about 20 million less than LA and Orlando, but only about 5 million less than Boston) So I just don't believe that "small markets can't compete when compared to money" statement. Any team can pay whatever they want to put a competitive product out on the floor. Some teams choose to pay more than others, but every team has the opportunity to do that.
 
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