I’m impressed with Philip Johnson, not only by his works, but by his words. That is to say his personal conduct. I had a meeting of some colleagues of mine at the university dinner meeting at a local restaurant and these are colleagues I respected and continue to respect. But I was very much informed by their treatment of him. These very competent, highly trained intellectuals spent an hour or so making it impossible for Johnson to get to first base. He must be defeated in advance. And that little experience, as much as anything Phil had written, dropped the scales from my eyes. There really is such a thing as scientific naturalism. It really is an ideology. It really does want to cover the entire intellectual framework. And many of my colleagues and friends at the university really do want to keep other points of view out. I say that as a confession of personal experience, and I’m sorry to report it, but I do believe it is true. And it is my fidelity to that truth, perhaps more than any positive conviction about the ultimate outcome of this debate that makes me put my energy on the side of questioning this prevailing paradigm. Because I do think it is a dogma. I do think this dogma is uncritical. And I do think that believing in it unreflectively is a sin against the intellect. And indeed it is a great obstacle to liberal education and liberal thought if we are, prior to all discussion, to limit thought only to certain predetermined avenues.