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Official Utah/Minnesota/Philadelphia Pick Watch

fishonjazz said:
agreed. Bucks. celtics, heat, raptors and a few others im sure im forgetting could finish ahead of the sixers and nets no problem.
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Key here is make the playoffs, not necessarily be a #1 seed. I'd slot Bucks, Cavs, Celtics and the Heat over both the Nets and the Sixers. Gotta figure the Bulls, Hawks and Raptors will figure into the back mix somewhere. Outside of that, I can't see a team like the Wiz, Hornets or Knicks somehow finishing better than them and knocking them out of the playoffs entirely unless they get unlucky in a play-in or get some injuries.

The Nets feel to me like the team that could implode if KD goes down, Kyrie does Kyrie things and Simmons continues to look like a chump. If Philly sees injuries to Harden or more importantly Embiid, they still might be good enough to pull off a late seed.
 
Avery said:
Key here is make the playoffs, not necessarily be a #1 seed. I'd slot Bucks, Cavs, Celtics and the Heat over both the Nets and the Sixers. Gotta figure the Bulls, Hawks and Raptors will figure into the back mix somewhere. Outside of that, I can't see a team like the Wiz, Hornets or Knicks somehow finishing better than them and knocking them out of the playoffs entirely unless they get unlucky in a play-in or get some injuries.

The Nets feel to me like the team that could implode if KD goes down, Kyrie does Kyrie things and Simmons continues to look like a chump. If Philly sees injuries to Harden or more importantly Embiid, they still might be good enough to pull off a late seed.
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Kyrie already doing Kyrie things and BS is out with knee soreness. Watched him the other night make a bad play then hold his back... any flicker of adversity and that team melts.

It really is on Philly. Embiid is always a threat to miss 25+games and dealt with plantar fasciitis in the offseason. There are a few teams that will be there should they slip.
 
Avery said:
While I'd find it comical if somehow all three teams landed in the lottery, Philly and Brooklyn even at 80% are good enough to make the playoffs in the East. More than likely, the Royce pick ends in the 20's somewhere.
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That is where I think it ends up as well and there will be a bunch of quality players to pick from. This year's draft is going to be loaded with long wings that every team wants.
 
I mean Kanye backed Kyrie today... that is where we are and we haven't even played 10 games. No idea why Brooklyn thought this could be patched together for a year or two.
 
Udidthizz said:
Kyrie should be suspended for the season or longer IMO, but apparently anti-semitism isn’t a particular concern for the NBA.
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If this movie is so toxic/bad, why has it been on Amazon for so long?

I really don't understand any of this. I know it's a black Israelite type thing, but is believing in that inherently anti semetic?

The funny thing to me is that the media has blown this up so much and has given this thing way more publicity than it would have gotten if Kyrie just posted it and no one gave a ****. It's probably selling and being viewed more on Amazon now than it ever has. And no one actually knows what is what. It's just a bunch of people yelling at Kyrie that he's racist.

I'm not trying to argue to defend Kyrie, I just think the role of trying to silence/censor is almost always a bad one and just results in bad ideas being spread more, giving conspiracy theories more fuel to burn.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If this movie is so toxic/bad, why has it been on Amazon for so long?

I really don't understand any of this. I know it's a black Israelite type thing, but is believing in that inherently anti semetic?

The funny thing to me is that the media has blown this up so much and has given this thing way more publicity than it would have gotten if Kyrie just posted it and no one gave a ****. It's probably selling and being viewed more on Amazon now than it ever has. And no one actually knows what is what. It's just a bunch of people yelling at Kyrie that he's racist.

I'm not trying to argue to defend Kyrie, I just think the role of trying to silence/censor is almost always a bad one and just results in bad ideas being spread more, giving conspiracy theories more fuel to burn.
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1000% true. All of this.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I really don't understand any of this. I know it's a black Israelite type thing, but is believing in that inherently anti semetic?
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Yes. Yes it is. Believing that black people are real descendants of the people of Old Testament, while actual Jews are evil, scheming usurpers who have robbed black people of their birthright is anti-Semitic. It boggles my mind that I have to point this out. Not only is it anti-Semitic, it's also a continuation of a medieval tropes about Jews as conniving and illegitimate that gave rise to Antisemitism.
 
JimLes said:
Yes. Yes it is. Believing that black people are real descendants of the people of Old Testament, while actual Jews are evil, scheming usurpers who have robbed black people of their birthright is anti-Semitic. It boggles my mind that I have to point this out. Not only is it anti-Semitic, it's also a continuation of a medieval tropes about Jews as conniving and illegitimate that gave rise to Antisemitism.
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How is that different from how Jewish people from Israel view Palestinians?
 
The most frustrating and exhausting thing about Antisemitism for me isn't even the daily reminders of my otherness or slurs you occasionally hear or having to read constant stories about anti-Jewish violence or even that little pang of panic I feel any time a stranger asks if I'm Jewish. It's that on top of all this, the society places the onus on the victims to defend and justify themselves.

Every year, our community in my city organizes all sorts of events to educate people about the Holocaust. Every year, we ask survivors among us to go share their stories at schools, at commemorations, and at public events. They tell their stories over and over again, relieving all the trauma each time. A dozen times a year I feel like I have to convince close friends and even gentile relatives that Antisemitism is real, that it's much more common than they realize, and that everyone in the community is deeply afraid. Half the time, I feel like they humour me, but don't really believe me.

And it's just so tiring. It feels like the responsibility for preventing another massive tragedy is on the Jews themselves. Make sure you don't piss off the gentiles enough for them to start killing you again. Remind them about just how easily a society can go down this way. Beg them, beg them to believe you.

When the Jewish community tells you something's Antisemitic, believe us. For ****'s sake, just believe us. Don't try to argue about it, don't try to think about it for yourself, don't try to "educate" yourself and make up your own mind. Just believe us. Even if we're wrong, err on the side of caution because maybe, just maybe, an entire community's right to feel safe is more important than Kyrie's right to stay stupid stuff online.
 
Udidthizz said:
If you promote this point of view, then yes, youre an anti-semite:

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I'm 1/4 Ashkenazi Jewish with distant relatives who emigrated from Latvia/Lithuania to escape persecution in the early 20th century. I don't have a problem with views like this being expressed, and I don't insist that they be censored. The controversy stems from tribes of people from the Caucasus Mountains region who were Turkic and later mixed European/Turkic and who migrated from the Middle East through Eastern Europe during the early Roman Empire. These people converted to Judaism, but were not direct descendants of the original Hebrews. A faction of this group were known as Khazars. They were largely merchants and traders between Europe and Eurasia. They became Jewish, in name at least, via conversion. This may account for at least some significant percentage of modern white or European Jews, and they are largely distinguishable by their genetics.

Discussing these things and the history surrounding shouldn't be construed as 'anti-semitism' in my opinion. I have no idea what movie Kyrie is talking about. I haven't tuned in to what he's saying.
 
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