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Walker Kessler Bench Appreciation Thread

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Too bad we traded away the players who made those lineups work. I'm talking about the current team construction
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If the conversation is limited to current team construction then Kessler is far from the only player with the "We can't compensate for his weaknesses" problem. Hell, without him, the defense is so bad that the team as currently constructed would have to be historically elite to even be competitive most nights.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Lmao man. I just can't. Not sure why I let you suck me into these things.
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I agree you cant. It would be like arguing that the sun isn't hot. Not sure why you tried to argue against something that is simply a fact.
 
KqWIN said:
That is the reoccurring argument that is completely stupid. If you think Lopez is an example is to why Kessler can become a decent 3 point shooter you are a complete idiot.
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Why isn't he an example though?

I get that anyone who thinks differently than you is an idiot but I just don't know why.

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fishonjazz said:
Why isn't he an example though?

I get that anyone who thinks differently than you is an idiot but I just don't know why.

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Like I said, already had this conversation with you. Don’t care to repeat myself on something so simple and blatantly obvious.

If you can’t figure it out, it is not worth it to talk to you about it.
 
KqWIN said:
Like I said, already had this conversation with you. Don’t care to repeat myself on something so simple and blatantly obvious.

If you can’t figure it out, it is not worth it to talk to you about it.
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That works for me. Does seem like something so obvious would be easy to reiterate but oh wells.

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KqWIN said:
That is the reoccurring argument that is completely stupid. If you think Lopez is an example is to why Kessler can become a decent 3 point shooter you are a complete idiot.
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He never shot threes through college or the first 6 years of his career. Then he shot them once in a blue moon and was bad at it but he kept shooting and got better so tell me why that’s a bad EXAMPLE!!! As you can see it wasn’t a comparison.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
He never shot threes through college or the first 6 years of his career. Then he shot them once in a blue moon and was bad at it but he kept shooting and got better so tell me why that’s a bad EXAMPLE!!! As you can see it wasn’t a comparison.
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You are literally comparing the two, but I don't care about semantics. If Brook is an example and not a comparison, it's a terrible example. If you really think Brook and Walker showed the same ability to shoot the ball and eventually make 3 pointers, I've got nothing for you. Figure that out on your own, it's not difficult. You are either arguing in bad faith or being so dumb it's not even worth discussing.
 
KqWIN said:
You are literally comparing the two, but I don't care about semantics. If Brook is an example and not a comparison, it's a terrible example. If you really think Brook and Walker showed the same ability to shoot the ball and eventually make 3 pointers, I've got nothing for you. Figure that out on your own, it's not difficult. You are either arguing in bad faith or being so dumb it's not even worth discussing.
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Well Walker has shown more ability to shoot 3's than Brook to this point in their careers.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
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Quite literally Fish and Thee when it comes to Walker shooting 3s
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Exactly. Now you are getting it.

I literally said that I think kessler has a very low chance to ever be a good 3 point shooter. We both think this.

Just like you and I both would have said that Lopez has a very low chance to ever be a good 3 point shooter if we had this discussion about him in 2010.

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Kessler being a good 3 point shooter is very unlikely.
But the fact that there are examples, Lopez being one, of guys not being good 3 point shooters later becoming good 3 point shooters gives a sliver of a chance.
If no one had ever done it before then it would still be possible (first time for everything and all) but even less likely in my mind.

It's like if I fish a certain river year after year and I really want to catch a fish over 20 inches. If I see a couple of people catch a fish over 20 inches then it makes it more likely that maybe I will someday as well even if 95% of the time I don't see anyone catch one over 20 inches. If I never ever saw anyone catch a 20 incher then my chances would be even lower. The fact that I saw it happen a few times makes it more possible that it can happen again. Even it's still very unlikely.

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Walker needs to rework his jumper to have a prayer. I haven't seen much change there at all... just repeating the same wonky shot will only take you so far. I don't really care if he shoots a corner three here or there... I don't care if he works on it a little if he's prioritized it behind other things.
 
I am with Cy on this one, the Brook Lopez comparison makes no sense. Lopez was always a good free throw shooter like has already been mentioned, and he also had much more of an offensive game in the post and midrange than Kessler does.

I have a cleaning the glass subscription, and here's what they have on Lopez's shooting. Even before he started taking 3s he was above average in the midrange, even on long midrangers most years. There was a shooting foundation that Kessler doesn't have.
 

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Friend2bees said:
I am with Cy on this one, the Brook Lopez comparison makes no sense. Lopez was always a good free throw shooter like has already been mentioned, and he also had much more of an offensive game in the post and midrange than Kessler does.

I have a cleaning the glass subscription, and here's what they have on Lopez's shooting. Even before he started taking 3s he was above average in the midrange, even on long midrangers most years. There was a shooting foundation that Kessler doesn't have.
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We all agree with what you just posted fwiw.

I don't think anyone ever said that Lopez was a worse offensive player, mid range shooter or free throw shooter than Kessler or that Kessler has a better shooting foundation or that Kessler has a better chance to be a good 3 point shooter than Lopez did.

Just that Lopez wasn't a good three point shooter early in his career but he did become one later in his career so it's possible, though unlikely, that it could happen to a different player.

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