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Completely agree. The fact that the FO did nothing to help with playmaking is not and should not be on Collins. He is a nice complementary piece and seems to be a decent locker room guy. Our current roster is very poorly constituted and that is because of Collins.

I would like to see Rudy and Lauri together. And there are lots of other options that creates, including keeping Mike so we have a legit PG. I am fine with people saying tearing it down was their preference but acting like we didnt have lots of options that made us a lot better a lot sooner is...

I agree it wasn't working - that was very clear - which is why I was a fan of trading one of the two. The issue was between Don and Rudy. There was no reason to trade both of them.

Trading both Rudy and Donny never made sense to me and I have taken some shots for saying so. I have been surprised at how much energy this board has had about having "assets" and how comfortable many are with being crappy, especially when there was zero need to be crappy. Some teams are...

There are multiple moves that looking back may seem bad. We bet the farm by trading two all stars and even potential HOF who were still in their prime, one of whom loved being in Utah. Danny got very lucky when he blew up the Celtics because the Nets imploded so his picks looked genius. I...

The context is definitely a problem this year - very poorly constituted roster - and Walker is having understandable growing pains. I think Kessler will still be a solid and serviceable big. That being said, he was certainly overhyped last year. The comments evaluating him versus Rudy last...

I like Collins and think he plays a useful role that is needed for teams that are decent. He obviously wont carry a team or become the focal point but good teams need the John Collins type players. Overall, the make up and mix of this roster may be the worst constituted I have ever seen in my...

I am a Rudy fan and hope he keeps killing it. His being thrown under the bus last year on this board surprised me. I saw last month that Tony tweeted that Rudy should win the DPOY this year and that this really should be his 5th. IMO Rudy should end up in the HOF.

Agreed. We really dont know what kind of coach Hardy is because of how little he has been given to work with. I also think he may not be interested in sticking around if every good player we get we decide to ship off for "assets." I cant imagine Hardy liking the way things are going when we...

"Golden Griff" - from the "parking lot". I miss Hot Rod.

If no one is untouchable, why are we even doing this? The goal is not to acquire assets, it is to win games. We traded Donny and Rudy when they both had lots of tread left on the tires. Continuing to do that is ridiculous.

There will be lots of seats still available in a few months and the price will the same as it is now. Fans jump to conclusions on players significantly faster than real development occurs.

I said it was too early to write him off a few weeks ago but I think it is too early to anoint him as well. Hope he turns out great and there are some positive signs (there always was) but playing in the real league versus the G league is a huge difference. Hopefully I can still get a bus...

Way too early to dismiss Hendricks. The hilarious part is how many on this board were sure he was going to be a rotation player this year and even upset about the Collins trade because it took minutes away from Hendricks. What Hendricks is going through at his age and this stage is the norm...

Agreed. DA is a blue light special kind of guy

Current roster makes less sense than almost any Jazz roster I remember. And it didnt have to be that way.

If the Jazz took that approach our regular jerseys would be 10 times better.

No one has any idea if Hendricks will be a bust or an all star but the draft is always a crap shoot. That is why your trade for talent first and picks second.

It is completely opportunistic value. There are great aspirations and goals but no apparent plan. If you are going to trade two all stars you should definitely tank. We are a tweener the last two years. Hopefully something big comes along were we can trade our assets for real talent. I...

My two cents. The Jazz FO in the past had a plan. The current front office is opportunistic. I am sure they have a general idea of where they want to go but they pursue options that seem like a good deal and then figure out how to make it work. I am in the great minority but I still see no...