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    Hayward opted out

    I really liked Gordon Hayward and was unhappy that he left the Jazz. But for many reasons (some out of his control), his time didn't work out in Boston. I don't understand any team paying him this much money though. He could end up being one of the players making the most money but providing...
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    We signed Emmanuel Mudiay

    Excellent points. Very well thought out. It comes down to whether people believe that Exum has shown us everything that he is capable of showing. No one can dispute that injuries have hurt his results as well as his development. This is not an excuse ... just reality. I completely...
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    I can't believe...

    If Exum didn't play point guard, he would likely be gone already. The position is key to what the Jazz try to do and has proven very difficult to find consistency. The FO wants to give him every opportunity to turn into the player that they think he can be. The upside is huge if he can turn...
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    I can't believe...

    I disagree that the front office has been complacent. We have been hearing for the last couple of years that they have been trying to make a big move to get a better point guard. Just because they had been unable until now to make that move does not mean that they haven't been trying to get...
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    Rate the Jazz Offseason and Discuss

    We already have our "superstars". They just haven't been recognized as such yet. What we needed (and now hopefully have) is some consistency top to bottom, more scorers, more shooters. These players are not superstars, but they are very good players and provide upgrades at the positions where...
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    Rubio traded to Jazz

    I doubt this trade will have any effect on Hayward staying or going. Hayward is a smart guy. Sure he wants the Jazz to make every effort to retain Hill, but he knows that having 70% of the salary cap tied up in himself, Gobert, and Hill is not winning combination. This is good move whether or...
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    Joe Johnson Coming to Utah

    The summer league is for evaluating new talent. Joe is a 17 year veteran. What do you think?
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    Pissed at people

    Your argument would make sense if it weren't for the fact that the salary cap is going from $70 million last year to over 94 million this year and then likely up to 107 million next year. Salaries are being inflated across the board. Who's to say what 30-35 million even buys anymore? Spend...
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    Bye Bye Burke

    You're absolutely right. This is a point that is so often missed in many discussions. There is no crystal ball when dealing with the draft. Players picked in the first round OFTEN do not pan out ... even lottery picks. Look through every draft for the last 15 years and it will be riddled...
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    Best and worst FA signings

    With the new salary cap that is ballooning over the next few years, every contract that gets signed is going to look like an overpay. Any frame of reference of how much players should and should not be paid is thrown completely out the window at this point. Just wait until the actual stars...
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    Hear Me Out: NBA Screws Utah Jazz out of Playoffs Through Rockets vs Jazz Jan. 04, 2016

    If you dig through the tapes, you'll find countless examples where bad calls influenced the results of games that affect every team in the NBA. Sometimes those mistakes benefit your team and sometime they don't. You can't isolate one specific mistake and then claim that it is the reason that...
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    Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

    Aww, let them enjoy it for a few weeks. If they re-sign him, they'll have plenty of time to realize the big mistake they made. :)
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    Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

    I don't see moderator by your name, so the group may continue discuss Kanter as often and for whatever duration they are so inclined. The fact of the matter is that many of us are coming to grips with the fact that we wasted the #3 pick in the 2011 draft. After seeing what the team has done...
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    15-7

    Exum gets a pass because he is a rookie. If he is anything remotely like this in his 3rd year, I can assure you that this entire board will be calling for his head. Exum works very hard on defense. Exum on offense is very hard to measure. He's not trying and failing, he simply is not trying...
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    Finally, The Jazz

    And that's the point that I think will become more obvious is they decide to sign him. While he's good on offense, whose touches is he going to take away? I don't see him being an option over KD and Westbrook if both are in the game. He would probably be a better offensive option than Ibaka...
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    Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

    I hope they pay him big. They are a division opponent, so I like to see them make mistakes. :)
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    Kanter 30 Pts and 16 Rebs... And Now the Rest of the Story...

    I'm glad he did what he did at this point. Had he kept his mouth shut, we probably would have kept him until the end of year. He would have gotten an offer that the Jazz wouldn't (and shouldn't) have matched and we would have gotten nothing for him. For all the comments about us not getting...
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    Finally, The Jazz

    /sigh Anything you say about Kanter and OKC right now is meaningless and subject to the return of their real starters. There is only one reason why OKC didn't crash and burn after losing KD and Ibaka ... and it ain't Kanter.
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    Who is Excited About Trey?

    I actually like Trey and get really excited in those few games that he plays well. I really like his energy, but I totally hate his judgment. I like that he is fearless, but I hate that he thinks he's a lot better than he actually is. That being said, I think most of his problems are in the...
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    Gordon is awesome, essential, our Lebron thread

    We got exactly what he was worth at the point we decided to trade him. Would you have preferred we let him play out the season and let him go for nothing?
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