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fishonjazz said:
Also..... maybe jabari will be highly thought of enough that we could trade the #2 pick for the 4th or 5th and another lotto pick without giving up #23.

Then we would have a top 5 pick, another one in the 12-14 range, and 23.

Thats alot of assets
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umm **** that. If we are lucky enough to get a top tier pick we're keeping that ****. If any other player was put through the kind of close scrutiny as Parker/Wiggins this year we probably wouldn't want any of them. Nobody thinks that they will drop for a reason. Parker is good and a pretty solid bet for a draft pick.
 
I see parker as a tweener that will average around 24 pts and 7 rebounds (assuming he stays in shape) and be very bad on defense.

I see randle as a power forward who will be a 20 pt and 10 rebound guy and be poor defensively.

Not a big difference between the two imo.
Throw in another lotto pick along side randle and i believe randle plus another lottery pick > jabari
 
cowhide said:
Kevin Durrant couldn't do one rep on the bench press. The bench press is nice to brag about but it doesn't really mean much when it comes to playing basketball. Yes Smart is an excellent athlete but I have yet to see any great SG at 6'3" who are average shooters become superstars. Now if he can become a PG then I think his strength can be used as a weapon but I have my doubts that he is a PG.
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Yes and no. What it means is that a player is strong. Kevin Durant is a great player, but he's 6'11" and despite being taller than every defender he plays against, he does very little on the low block. Why? He can't back anybody down because he lacks strength. Yes, he's great, but if he were stronger, he'd be even better.
 
cowhide said:
Kevin Durrant couldn't do one rep on the bench press. The bench press is nice to brag about but it doesn't really mean much when it comes to playing basketball. Yes Smart is an excellent athlete but I have yet to see any great SG at 6'3" who are average shooters become superstars. Now if he can become a PG then I think his strength can be used as a weapon but I have my doubts that he is a PG.
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Dwayne Wade isn't much taller than 6'3". If I remember he was an average shooter in the draft.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Yes and no. What it means is that a player is strong. Kevin Durant is a great player, but he's 6'11" and despite being taller than every defender he plays against, he does very little on the low block. Why? He can't back anybody down because he lacks strength. Yes, he's great, but if he were stronger, he'd be even better.
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Yep

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cowhide said:
Kevin Durant couldn't do one rep on the bench press. The bench press is nice to brag about but it doesn't really mean much when it comes to playing basketball. Yes Smart is an excellent athlete but I have yet to see any great SG at 6'3" who are average shooters become superstars. Now if he can become a PG then I think his strength can be used as a weapon but I have my doubts that he is a PG.
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Smart can play PG. He is definitely more of a newfangled PG (he should be in full-time attack mode a la Tony Parker) than he is a traditional PG (like Stockton). Inside the right structure, he'll be fine.

EDIT: also, Durant deserves to have his name spelled correctly, IMO
 
orangello said:
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Cowhide apparently doesn't understand a few basic principles. One, if a guy can play, he'll be successful - Dragic, Monta Ellis, Bradley Beal are current examples of short SGs who have been very successful. Two, reach or wingspan is much more important than height and Smart's Wingspan puts him in the range of the prototypical SG. Third, Smart has elite strength and athleticism - the type of size and strength that is rarely seen among NBA guards - SGs or PGs. Smart is short, but you throw him in the post and he's stronger and heavier than 90% of SGs - he can also use that strength and length to defend taller SGs.

I have concerns about Smart, but playing SG at 6'3" (6'9.25" wingspan) 230, is most certainly not one of them. Can he shoot well enough to not hurt a team? That's legit question.
 
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seattlejazzfan said:
And the second is that he has some crazy in him - both on court and off court. If he can reign in some of the crazy and become an adequate shooter, he has a chance to be pretty special.
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True. I still think others have higher ceilings but he's impressed me lately.

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