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Zombie said:
I think it's a mix of both tbh. There is a certain logic to being vague on policy, especially as a populist candidate like Bernie. At the same time Elizabeth Warren is the most wonkish of the candidates running and has put a lot of work into very specific proposals.
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Yeah... I'm still gonna push back on the idea that it's a mix of both because I really think Bernie's record when it comes to making actual deals shows that he's never been just a bellows to the populist fire. The dude has scruples and makes deals. He has way more of a spotlight on him than Warren, so their approaches right now aren't easily compared on the level of "substance" or "information."
 
Heathme said:
New York Times Admits Obama Admin Deployed Multiple Spies Against Trump Campaign In 2016

"The New York Times admitted on Thursday that the Obama administration deployed multiple spies against the Trump campaign in 2016, confirming recent comments by Attorney General William Barr that 'spying did occur' during the campaign."

https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/0...ltiple-spies-deployed-against-trump-campaign/
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I'm not really familiar with The Federalist. Do they usually expose their misunderstanding of what a news report is vs an "admission"?
 
The totality of the jobs report is incredible. Record job growth. REAL individual wage growth. High labor force participation. Unemployment at 3.6% (lowest since ‘69). Record high job surplus (7million+) At this point our greatest risk is running out of enough workers!
 
UNEMPLOYMENT 49-YEAR LOW
WAGE HITS $27.77/HOUR
APRIL JOBS +263K
STOCK MARKET ENDLESS RALLY

Hispanic Unemployment Lowest Ever......
Best for women since 1953!
Record jobs even for high school dropouts!



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As I have interacted with the many liberals, Trump haters, just plain grumps on this site, I have seen a few rules emerge that they seem to all follow. I will share them now. Please feel free to add any new ones if I miss any.

1. NEVER under any circumstance say that a policy change under the Republicans or Trump has had ANY positive effect.
- In addition to this, state that all of the positive news that is happening is because of Obama (still after 2 years...).
- If any good news comes out about tax cuts or more jobs, downplay the news by stating that it's not great for everyone.
2. You must believe that conservatives/Republicans adore every single thing that Trump says or does. When in fact, most people voted for him because 1) He is not Hillary Clinton, 2) He would implement policies to slash regulations, improve the economy and would make it possible for the Republican senate to vote in 100+ federal judges so far.
3. You must not read any article or opinion by ANY source other than CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, etc. If anyone posts something from another source than these, you must say something like,"well, consider the source..." and then NOT read the information it contains.
4. You MUST believe that the world is ending in 12 years because a statistical model from the IPCC says it will be so. Anything else just proves that you are an ignoramus of the highest order and must be ignored. In addition, if anyone posts other theories or ideas, you must look up the name of the person that said those ideas, scour their profile for any hint of working with fossil fuels and state that they cannot be trusted. Then you will NOT read the information that they present.
5. You must call people with ideas that are different than your own idiots, dumb asses, ignorant, stupid, etc. This only strengthens your argument...
- If you want to be particularly vile, post something like this if a conservative says something: A. Keep your politics out of this thread you worthless piece of ****. B. Eat a dick
6. If a conservative posts other ideas or defends their point of view always state the following, "you have a strange persecution complex."
7. Defend socialism at all costs even though we are seeing in real-time with Venezuela how bad it sucks. If anyone contradicts you on Socialism, state the lie that the Scandinavian countries are Socialist and doing great.
8. Disparage even the idea of discussing conservative topics. Say things like, "Please file this thread G for Garbage."
9. If they say anything you don't like, call them a whiner. Also, say things really emphatically because that makes you "more" right.

To be continued..
 
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Heathme said:
As I have interacted with the many liberals, Trump haters, just plain grumps on this site, I have seen a few rules emerge that they seem to all follow. I will share them now. Please feel free to add any new ones if I miss any.

1. NEVER under any circumstance say that a policy change under the Republicans or Trump has had ANY positive effect.
- In addition to this, state that all of the positive news that is happening is because of Obama (still after 2 years...).
- If any good news comes out about tax cuts or more jobs, downplay the news by stating that it's not great for everyone.
2. You must believe that conservatives/Republicans adore every single thing that Trump says or does. When in fact, most people voted for him because 1) He is not Hillary Clinton, 2) He would implement policies to slash regulations, improve the economy and would make it possible for the Republican senate to vote in 100+ federal judges so far.
3. You must not read any article or opinion by ANY source other than CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, etc. If anyone posts something from another source than these, you must say something like,"well, consider the source..." and then NOT read the information it contains.
4. You MUST believe that the world is ending in 12 years because a statistical model from the IPCC says it will be so. Anything else just proves that you are an ignoramus of the highest order and must be ignored. In addition, if anyone posts other theories or ideas, you must look up the name of the person that said those ideas, scour their profile for any hint of working with fossil fuels and state that they cannot be trusted. Then you will NOT read the information that they present.
5. You must call people with ideas that are different than your own idiots, dumb asses, ignorant, stupid, etc. This only strengthens your argument...
- If you want to be particularly vile, post something like this if a conservative says something: A. Keep your politics out of this thread you worthless piece of ****. B. Eat a dick
6. If a conservative posts other ideas or defends their point of view always state the following, "you have a strange persecution complex."
7. Defend socialism at all costs even though we are seeing in real-time with Venezuela how bad it sucks. If anyone contradicts you on Socialism, state the lie that the Scandinavian countries are Socialist and doing great.
8. Disparage even the idea of discussing conservative topics. Say things like, "Please file this thread G for Garbage."
9. If they say anything you don't like, call them a whiner. Also, say things really emphatically because that makes you "more" right.

To be continued..
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Heathme said:
As I have interacted with the many liberals, Trump haters, just plain grumps on this site, I have seen a few rules emerge that they seem to all follow. I will share them now. Please feel free to add any new ones if I miss any.

1. NEVER under any circumstance say that a policy change under the Republicans or Trump has had ANY positive effect.
- In addition to this, state that all of the positive news that is happening is because of Obama (still after 2 years...).
- If any good news comes out about tax cuts or more jobs, downplay the news by stating that it's not great for everyone.
2. You must believe that conservatives/Republicans adore every single thing that Trump says or does. When in fact, most people voted for him because 1) He is not Hillary Clinton, 2) He would implement policies to slash regulations, improve the economy and would make it possible for the Republican senate to vote in 100+ federal judges so far.
3. You must not read any article or opinion by ANY source other than CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, etc. If anyone posts something from another source than these, you must say something like,"well, consider the source..." and then NOT read the information it contains.
4. You MUST believe that the world is ending in 12 years because a statistical model from the IPCC says it will be so. Anything else just proves that you are an ignoramus of the highest order and must be ignored. In addition, if anyone posts other theories or ideas, you must look up the name of the person that said those ideas, scour their profile for any hint of working with fossil fuels and state that they cannot be trusted. Then you will NOT read the information that they present.
5. You must call people with ideas that are different than your own idiots, dumb asses, ignorant, stupid, etc. This only strengthens your argument...
- If you want to be particularly vile, post something like this if a conservative says something: A. Keep your politics out of this thread you worthless piece of ****. B. Eat a dick
6. If a conservative posts other ideas or defends their point of view always state the following, "you have a strange persecution complex."
7. Defend socialism at all costs even though we are seeing in real-time with Venezuela how bad it sucks. If anyone contradicts you on Socialism, state the lie that the Scandinavian countries are Socialist and doing great.
8. Disparage even the idea of discussing conservative topics. Say things like, "Please file this thread G for Garbage."
9. If they say anything you don't like, call them a whiner. Also, say things really emphatically because that makes you "more" right.

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This is 100% true

****ing liberals. Pretending to be good people, but on the inside they are ugly.
 
Heathme said:
The totality of the jobs report is incredible. Record job growth. REAL individual wage growth. High labor force participation. Unemployment at 3.6% (lowest since ‘69). Record high job surplus (7million+) At this point our greatest risk is running out of enough workers!
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So build the wall then?
 
Heathme said:
Social Security won't be able to pay full benefits by 2035

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/22/politics/social-security-medicare-trustees-report/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2019-04-22T16:30:01&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_term=image

And yet Liberals want to give free college for all, free healthcare for all and whatever other "free" thing they can pull out their butts. It is sad that people fall for this bull crap. Especially millennials and young people that really think their college debt is going to be expunged just because Bernie Sanders says it will.
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Two years with republicans in charge really reduced spending and the deficit!

Deficit is now only (looking it up)...... oh ****, ~ trillion. Nvm.

If I run up all my credit cards my economic outlook feels awesome. For now. No worries, my kids will pay off the card.

Both parties are morally bankrupt.
 
silesian said:
Two years with republicans in charge really reduced spending and the deficit!

Deficit is now only (looking it up)...... oh ****, ~ trillion. Nvm.

If I run up all my credit cards my economic outlook feels awesome. For now. No worries, my kids will pay off the card.

Both parties are morally bankrupt.
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Its a process. You have to put people back to work. Get the economy going. Raise healthy tax revenue by having a stout economy and more people are working. The liberal idea of giving money away to people is a horrible idea. It doesnt produce more. It just transfers.

Social programs and endless wars is what has ruined this country. Get rid of those and we will be fine. Capitalism is the answer.

Trump is the answer. He is moving us in that direction. If this country shifts backwards and elects some socialist, we will be ****ed. Trump is the last great hope to fix this mess.

You ever wonder why Republicans and Democrats opposed him? You clearly can see both parties are corrupt. But your dumb arse buys into the smear campaign against the guy who is what you want and need. Do you really think the right guy would not have a smear campaign against him if he opposed all the corruption? Pull your head out your arse.
 
Bulletproof said:
As a self avowed Trump hater, that list in not 100% true for me.
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You almost check the boxes. You skate right a long that line of being a normal smart human being and being a libtard.

You are like that character in a movie that has its normal good self somewhere hiding underneath the evil hypnotic spell, and its just a matter of time before the good guys(me) save you. I just have to have faith and keep chipping away at it.

The longer Trump is in office and you see the good progress we are making the more you will realize some things. Like the KKK isnt actually taking over the country and real capitalism is a good thing.
 
NPC D4617 said:
Its a process. You have to put people back to work. Get the economy going. Raise healthy tax revenue by having a stout economy and more people are working. The liberal idea of giving money away to people is a horrible idea. It doesnt produce more. It just transfers.

Social programs and endless wars is what has ruined this country. Get rid of those and we will be fine. Capitalism is the answer.

Trump is the answer. He is moving us in that direction. If this country shifts backwards and elects some socialist, we will be ****ed. Trump is the last great hope to fix this mess.

You ever wonder why Republicans and Democrats opposed him? You clearly can see both parties are corrupt. But your dumb arse buys into the smear campaign against the guy who is what you want and need. Do you really think the right guy would not have a smear campaign against him if he opposed all the corruption? Pull your head out your arse.
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Smile. Trump spends like a maniac and cuts taxes for the rich. And the deficit poof disappears. Because “trust the process”. Magic!!!

And, really the pity party poor little picked on Donnie story is really really (yawn) tiresome. Take accountability for this bozo’s chaos and incompetence.

But keep it up. You undying love for this loser is a great testimony for brainwashing. Putin may just put your guy in office twice. And unpatriotic fools like you will bury your heads in the sand.
 
Heathme said:
As I have interacted with the many liberals, Trump haters, just plain grumps on this site, I have seen a few rules emerge that they seem to all follow. I will share them now. Please feel free to add any new ones if I miss any.

1. NEVER under any circumstance say that a policy change under the Republicans or Trump has had ANY positive effect.
- In addition to this, state that all of the positive news that is happening is because of Obama (still after 2 years...).
- If any good news comes out about tax cuts or more jobs, downplay the news by stating that it's not great for everyone.
2. You must believe that conservatives/Republicans adore every single thing that Trump says or does. When in fact, most people voted for him because 1) He is not Hillary Clinton, 2) He would implement policies to slash regulations, improve the economy and would make it possible for the Republican senate to vote in 100+ federal judges so far.
3. You must not read any article or opinion by ANY source other than CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, etc. If anyone posts something from another source than these, you must say something like,"well, consider the source..." and then NOT read the information it contains.
4. You MUST believe that the world is ending in 12 years because a statistical model from the IPCC says it will be so. Anything else just proves that you are an ignoramus of the highest order and must be ignored. In addition, if anyone posts other theories or ideas, you must look up the name of the person that said those ideas, scour their profile for any hint of working with fossil fuels and state that they cannot be trusted. Then you will NOT read the information that they present.
5. You must call people with ideas that are different than your own idiots, dumb asses, ignorant, stupid, etc. This only strengthens your argument...
- If you want to be particularly vile, post something like this if a conservative says something: A. Keep your politics out of this thread you worthless piece of ****. B. Eat a dick
6. If a conservative posts other ideas or defends their point of view always state the following, "you have a strange persecution complex."
7. Defend socialism at all costs even though we are seeing in real-time with Venezuela how bad it sucks. If anyone contradicts you on Socialism, state the lie that the Scandinavian countries are Socialist and doing great.
8. Disparage even the idea of discussing conservative topics. Say things like, "Please file this thread G for Garbage."
9. If they say anything you don't like, call them a whiner. Also, say things really emphatically because that makes you "more" right.

To be continued..
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Very good list. A few more I would add:
10. Always have your Racism Card handy. Feel free to use it at any time for any purpose in any argument. Once the Racism Card is played you are free to declare that you have won.
11. If you are ever befuddled by any question or argument posed by a conservative simply claim that they are not worth interacting with and claim victory.
12. Claim the moral high-ground. It does not matter whether you've earned it or not. One handy way to do this is to be repulsed by anything Trump related and therefore to vehemently reject any argument that might somehow be tied to Trump because it could have the result of further spreading his vileness.
13. Virtue signal at every available opportunity.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
10. Always have your Racism Card handy. Feel free to use it at any time for any purpose in any argument..
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Playing the racism card with people who vote for the leader of the birther movement. That seems....... well, actually it seem somewhat reasonable. Or do you argue that the birther movement was not fueled by bigotry?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
12. Claim the moral high-ground.
13. Virtue signal at every available opportunity.
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Sigh. I do miss the days when all the self righteous indignation came from the right.

Now we have the right complaining about self righteous indignation from the left.

It feels like the right is saying “self righteousness is OUR TURF!”

Today’s Trumpian scoop brains are kinda correct. And they are totally hypocritical.
 
silesian said:
Sigh. I do miss the days when all the self righteous indignation came from the right.

Now we have the right complaining about self righteous indignation from the left.

It feels like the right is saying “self righteousness is OUR TURF!”

Today’s Trumpian scoop brains are kinda correct. And they are totally hypocritical.
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It is weird how things have flipped. The right is now the counter culture. Its nerdy to be a liberal.
 
silesian said:
Smile. Trump spends like a maniac and cuts taxes for the rich. And the deficit poof disappears. Because “trust the process”. Magic!!!

And, really the pity party poor little picked on Donnie story is really really (yawn) tiresome. Take accountability for this bozo’s chaos and incompetence.

But keep it up. You undying love for this loser is a great testimony for brainwashing. Putin may just put your guy in office twice. And unpatriotic fools like you will bury your heads in the sand.
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Do you understand what trust the process even means? How long has it been since Trump took over? How much nonsense has he had to deal with on the side, and at the same time run the country?

How about you petulant children behave and the grown ups can take care of the mess you made. Daddy cant clean up the mess entirely until you stop making a mess. Better yet, why dont you help? Clean your own damn room. Stop blaming all your problems on Trump.

Factz. The economy is on fire. Things are on the up and up. Calm down Sally. Quit your bitchin.
 
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