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Alec Baldwin shoots and kills one, injures another.

Alec Baldwin now claims he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed the cinematographer. All I have to say is that it doesn't work like that. This may have been an older gun but I would put everything I have on that trigger being pulled.


Yeah, don’t get it myself unless it was cocked back and the hammer just broke.
 
Yeah, don’t get it myself unless it was ****ed back and the hammer just broke.
Yeah, that's like a 1:1,000,000 type of deal in my opinion.

I think Alec has seen too many Hollywood movies where guns just sort of go off and thinks that's how they work. For as long as guns have existed post flint-lock one of the primary most important features is that the gun only fires when the trigger is pulled.
 
Alec Baldwin now claims he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed the cinematographer. All I have to say is that it doesn't work like that. This may have been an older gun but I would put everything I have on that trigger being pulled.
He might actually remember it that way. Trauma does weird things to a person.
 
Alec Baldwin now claims he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed the cinematographer. All I have to say is that it doesn't work like that. This may have been an older gun but I would put everything I have on that trigger being pulled.


He might actually remember it that way. Trauma does weird things to a person.
I get that it could be the trauma of the whole thing, and he is going through some stuff I hope no one ever has to go through, can't imagine. However, I would not be surprised to find out that his PR machine is trying to help him with damage control. You bet your bottom dollar that he has been spending this time that he has been out of the public eye dealing with this thing largely talking to his lawyers and his personal management team working on damage control. I would think they could come up with something better than this, as this is the equivalent of the smarmy politician saying "I cannot recall" to everything if that is the case. But given that they have had ample time to process this on his team and work through a publicity strategy, I would bet that his assertion that he didn't pull the trigger is really what he remembers.
 
Supposedly the gun had misfired twice before this happened. Not sure if the gun was simply defective, and a bump would make a cocked hammer release.

The articles I have read regarding prior misfires don't provide any additional details. They appear to make it sound as if there were unanticipated discharges, but that isn't what a misfire actually is, so it is unclear to me.

If the gun was broken and the hammer could release without pulling the trigger, the armorer should be culpable (and potentially Baldwin if he was aware it was broken). Seems like the armorer will likely take the brunt of any charges.
 
If he had his finger on the trigger when he pulled it back it would just release, and he technically would not have "pulled" the trigger, I guess.

There is another guy on set (can’t remember his job) who says baldwins finger was always outside the trigger area (trigger guard?) and that he pulled back the hammer and released it and thats what caused it to fire. Kinda like in those westerns when you see the gunslinger just quickly fanning the hammer for faster shooting without ever touching the trigger


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There is another guy on set (can’t remember his job) who says baldwins finger was always outside the trigger area (trigger guard?) and that he pulled back the hammer and released it and thats what caused it to fire. Kinda like in those westerns when you see the gunslinger just quickly fanning the hammer for faster shooting without ever touching the trigger


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To fan the hammer they hold the trigger down the whole time. That's what allows it to release freely. The hammer could have malfunctioned.
 
Sounds like there will be an announcement today in regard to charges.
 
Charges filed...2 counts of involuntary manslaughter for Baldwin and the armorer each.
 
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