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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Predictably absent? Believe it or not, I don't read every post on this site. I have no idea what was going on in the ones you are talking about. What I do know is that you used to generally engage in good faith conversation with people of varying persuasions. Now you generally respond with anger and condescension. You have changed a lot.
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you can say whatever you want with respect to tone-- the fact of the matter is, you aren't being even-handed. That's on you. Either fix it, or I take it as an example of you not attempting to be decent to me (and that's fine-- it just means that I'll divert my attention to engaging other posters).
 
dalamon said:
you can say whatever you want with respect to tone-- the fact of the matter is, you aren't being even-handed. That's on you. Either fix it, or I take it as an example of you not attempting to be decent to me (and that's fine-- it just means that I'll divert my attention to engaging other posters).
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You will not engage with me unless I agree with your far leftist political views? Whatever. I guess we have discovered something that's going to be an impass for you. I used to enjoy reading your posts because I thought you did a good job of presenting your positions, even though I often disagreed with them. That has changed. I still usually disagree with your positions, but in addition I think you now usually do a poor job of presenting your positions.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
You will not engage with me unless I agree with your far leftist political views? Whatever. I guess we have discovered something that's going to be an impass for you. I used to enjoy reading your posts because I thought you did a good job of presenting your positions, even though I often disagreed with them. That has changed. I still usually disagree with your positions, but in addition I think you now usually do a poor job of presenting your positions.
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That’s not what he said at all. Let’s be fair.

Yes Dala has gotten much more aggressive and I don’t really agree with his justification either. But that’s irrelevant really.

But let’s be honest with what he’s saying. It’s not about agreement. It’s about eye for an eye. He is saying he will treat you how you treat him.
 
Stoked said:
That’s not what he said at all. Let’s be fair.

Yes Dala has gotten much more aggressive and I don’t really agree with his justification either. But that’s irrelevant really.

But let’s be honest with what he’s saying. It’s not about agreement. It’s about eye for an eye. He is saying he will treat you how you treat him.
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That is what Dala said.

However, if we’re being honest, some people are starting to treat Dala the way that he treats others, and then he wants to cry out about the unfairness of it all. He’s brash, arrogant, and condescending...not a surprise people are starting to treat him the same way.
 
JustTheTip said:
That is what Dala said.

However, if we’re being honest, some people are starting to treat Dala the way that he treats others, and then he wants to cry out about the unfairness of it all. He’s brash, arrogant, and condescending...not a surprise people are starting to treat him the same way.
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Careful with that chicken and egg logic. It's tricky.
 
JustTheTip said:
That is what Dala said.

However, if we’re being honest, some people are starting to treat Dala the way that he treats others, and then he wants to cry out about the unfairness of it all. He’s brash, arrogant, and condescending...not a surprise people are starting to treat him the same way.
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I’m replying of that one reply and that is not what Dala said in that quote. It’s possible I missed a previous response that says that.

I’m not disputing Dalas tone. I was one of the first to call him on it when it first started during his fights with NAOS.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
You will not engage with me unless I agree with your far leftist political views? Whatever. I guess we have discovered something that's going to be an impass for you. I used to enjoy reading your posts because I thought you did a good job of presenting your positions, even though I often disagreed with them. That has changed. I still usually disagree with your positions, but in addition I think you now usually do a poor job of presenting your positions.
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That’s not what I’m asking, Joe.

Hantlers is being a WAY more disrespectful, deconstructive poster than me— and all I’m seeing is you pointing your finger at me. I see nothing from you telling him to switch his act up. I am now repeating this for the third time. I’ve made myself intensely clear— I have ppl in my life who I’m acquianted with who are even more right wing than you, and they still love me. I’ll provide respect, but only when it’s deserved and reciprocated. This ******** on “you didn’t USED to be like this!” while other posters go on to say worse things? That doesn’t jive with me. And I don’t give a **** if that makes me more abrasive than whatever I used to be.
 
Stoked said:
That’s not what he said at all. Let’s be fair.

Yes Dala has gotten much more aggressive and I don’t really agree with his justification either. But that’s irrelevant really.

But let’s be honest with what he’s saying. It’s not about agreement. It’s about eye for an eye. He is saying he will treat you how you treat him.
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Stoked, I appreciate this. Thank you. Some sanity for once. You said it yourself — “let’s be fair.”

It’s a Utah-based forum, I get it. But if y’all aren’t being fair then none of you deserve any engagement for me. End of discussion.
 
Harambe said:
I will remain neutral until we get a time machine, and more clearly define if we mean egg as detached from body or not.
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Egg in a nest, book it.
 
Doesn't have to be from a chicken, just has to have a chicken inside.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Doesn't have to be from a chicken, just has to have a chicken inside.
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"It doesn't have to be from a chicken" kind of entails that the egg came first to have the chicken. So yeah.

There's kind of a lot going on there though.
 
dalamon said:
That’s not what I’m asking, Joe.

Hantlers is being a WAY more disrespectful, deconstructive poster than me— and all I’m seeing is you pointing your finger at me. I see nothing from you telling him to switch his act up. I am now repeating this for the third time. I’ve made myself intensely clear— I have ppl in my life who I’m acquianted with who are even more right wing than you, and they still love me. I’ll provide respect, but only when it’s deserved and reciprocated. This ******** on “you didn’t USED to be like this!” while other posters go on to say worse things? That doesn’t jive with me. And I don’t give a **** if that makes me more abrasive than whatever I used to be.
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Okay, my bad. I misunderstood you. I agree that people should treat others with respect, regardless of their political views... and I have obviously slipped in that regard toward you. Sorry.
 
Harambe said:
"It doesn't have to be from a chicken" kind of entails that the egg came first to have the chicken. So yeah.

There's kind of a lot going on there though.
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Yeah, here is how I see it...

A thing that is genetically 99% a chicken mates with something that is 99.5% a chicken, not really a chicken, but close. The resultant embryo in the egg that thing lays mutates just enough to get it to 100% a chicken. When it hatches, then it is a chicken. Hence, the egg had to be laid that contains a chicken for us to have a chicken, so the egg came first. The thing that laid the egg was "almost" a chicken, but not quite. If the egg gets made into an omelet then we still don't have a chicken, we have a delicious omelet. Once that egg hatches, THEN we have the first chicken. So the egg had to come first.

Another way to look at it is, if the chicken came first, where did the chicken come from? Naturally it had to come from an egg of some sort, so again, the egg came first. That egg, again, did not necessarily have to come from a chicken, but rather an "almost" chicken.

Unless it was some sort of cyborg chicken born in the depths of a dying star, sent to destroy us all. Then the chicken came first. And if it actually lays an egg, god help us all!

:(
 
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