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Anti-vaccination movement probably contributing to re-emergence of disease

So?
Well sweet!
If you like throwing man-made chemicals on your teeth, and slamming it down you and your kids throats through the water supply..... then by all means ;-)

Oh yeah, and Mr. Media Relations on your last post can say whatever he wants.
Hitler described these exact methods of mind control in the books he wrote.
So I suppose you can believe some historical geek that thinks his **** don't stink, or I suppose you can believe the guy that actually did it.

Like I said..... by all means.

Oh noes! Only throw man-made chemicals in your hair, clothes, cleaning products, every part of your house, every part of your furniture, all your electronics that you use all day, and every other aspect of your life. But not your teeth! Didn't you hear what someone told you about Hitler!!

I don't think I've ever seen such lack of critical thinking in a functional human being. You should check if your frontal lobes are all there. But then again, that'd involve dangerous man-made photons. And we know what Stalin said about these!
 
https://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/20...-children-suffer-from-vaccine-exemptions?lite

What you may not know is that a scary number of these diseases are at epidemic levels in the United States. Whooping cough, an illness that many Americans over 30 thought had disappeared, is at the highest rate among children in the US in fifty years. At least 18,000 cases have been reported in 2012, more than twice as many cases as there were at this time last year. Nine infants have died from whooping cough this year. In addition, an estimated 214 children contracted measles last year in the US, the largest outbreak of a nasty infectious disease in 15 years.

So did sanitation practices just take a horrible downturn? It is interesting how the incidence of such diseases increasing coincides with the anti-vaccine movement.
 
https://vitals.nbcnews.com/_news/20...-children-suffer-from-vaccine-exemptions?lite



So did sanitation practices just take a horrible downturn? It is interesting how the incidence of such diseases increasing coincides with the anti-vaccine movement.

Perhaps they're not following the procedures outlined on that website Catchall used to educate me? Are they doing enough Soul Retrievals? Are they sure their shamans are in tune with the planets? This is a complex issue that you shouldn't take lightly!
 
Ah yes, wishing for the death of millions of human beings based on stereotypical generalization based on where they live. You're right, Thriller, there are no worthwhile human beings in the South. It would be better for the rest of us if they all died.

Unfortunately the thinking that some lives should be sacrificed for the greater good is at the foundation of liberal ideology.

I might be going out on a limb here, but I don't think that he meant that literally. I believe the word for it is 'hyperbole.'

Your understanding of liberal ideology is extraordinary--extraordinarily uninformed that is.
 
Haha you're a funny guy.
Are you actually aware that fluoride is a chemical that is left over from metal smelting processes?
And are you also aware that Hitler fluoridated the water in his concentration camps, in order to make prisoners more cooperative?

Fluoride has eradicated more disease than anything ever...but whatever.

It's funny. The people that shy away from Fl the most have the most decay when they come to see me. Good for them and good for me. The more you avoid fluoride, the more money I make.
 
haha, that is literally some of the VERY worst reporting I've EVER seen, and I've read Bleacher Report.

It's a blog post written by an astronomer. There a significant and growing history of diseases like whooping cough, measles, etc. resurging in unvaccinated children in the USA, though.

Vaccines are a joke, made from the diseased flesh of mostly african monkeys.

1) African monkeys can't interbred with monkeys on other continents. They are entirely African, nor not at all Aftican.
2) Vaccines are made from germs grown in a sterile environment. Monkeys are not sterile.

If you think I'm kidding..... ?
Google is your friend.

No, I don't think you're kidding. You're just grossly misinformed. Google is not your friend, it's your con man, and you are the mark who thinks they have a friend.

You have to have your TB shot or you're not going to be in my public school system and well as most (if not all?) others.

TB? Tuberculosis? There is no such shot.

Are you actually aware that fluoride is a chemical that is left over from metal smelting processes?

So is water.

And are you also aware that Hitler fluoridated the water in his concentration camps, in order to make prisoners more cooperative?

Why is it relevant that Hitler did some stupid thing?

Improved sanitation, air quality and social conditions are factors sociologists typically correlate with improved life expectancy and health in the general population. As for individual cases and diseases there could be a number of causes, of which vaccination (or lack thereof) may or may not even be relevant.

Vaccination is obviously relevant. Smallpox was eliminated through vaccination in even the least sanitary countries/conditions; my kids were not required to get that vaccine (I was). Measles is making a comback in the USA/GB despite the comcparitively superior sanitary conditions. That's because smallpox and measles are caused by germs, and fought by vaccinations.

Also, that article says there is a significant increase in cases of whooping cough compared to just one year ago in the state of Washington. Then the author says that the "anti-vax" movement is strong in Washington, as a certain number of parents don't want to vaccinate their children.....

So, is the author making some leap to say that there is a causal relationship here?

Not a leap, more like a babystep.

The author presents no meaningful connection from the data that kids who weren't vaccinated in the last year account for the new cases of whooping cough.

Edit: And what's special about Washington in the past year? What about the people who don't get vaccinated in other states?

They still have to catch it from someone. The measles outbreaks occured in pockets, just like whooping cough.

Separately, what are the radiation levels in the Pacific Northwest during the past year since the Fukushima reactors have been releasing over 100x the 'safe' levels of radiation into the jet stream that flows into the state of Washington.

Maybe there are some other causal factors at work here.

We know what diseases are caused by radiation, and at what levels. We also know what causes whooping cough, and what prevents it.
 
Haha.... water isn't a "chemical" leftover from from metal smelting processes.

And how is Hitler relevant here?
Even Hitler knew in the 30's that flouride dumbed down people into being more submissive.
Which is exactly what has happened in this time and age.
People are submissive, and do exactly what the government tells them, which is exactly the way they like it.
 
Back to the vaccination topic:

All of the following numbers are made up, but the principles apply.

Here is the theory as to why you not getting a vaccination is dangerous for me. If we have a hypothetical vaccine X that is 80% effective and if everyone is administered the vaccine we population who will prevent an epidemic of disease X. If only 3/4 of the population take the vaccine we will have a population that is 60% immune. This means there are probably are enough people who can become infected to create an epidemic. So 15% of people who took the vaccine but it didn't work on get screwed by the people not taking the vaccine.

Of course people who are anti-vaccine are more likely to associate with people who are also anti-vaccine. So in reality the threshold for a epidemic is much lower.

Assuming the Autism/vaccine thing is truth (which I don't believe)-what percentage of children are you willing to let die (whooping cough etc.) to prevent a small percent of Autism?

In my opinion the costs of not vaccinating are much higher the potential costs of vaccinating.
 
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