Are presidents above the law?

[Gameface]

I hardly worry about what you say. You put my name in your posts when I haven't interacted with you in weeks.

I'm under your skin way deeper than you're under mine.

babe, a little while back I posted something and franklin took exception to it. I can't tell you how excited I was to have a DISCUSSION with someone. He directly addressed the points I had made, explained why he disagreed and offered a reasonable counter that was actually related to what I had posted. It was pure bliss. I responded back with clarification of my POV and my take on what he had posted. A few weeks later he came to my house for the jazzfanz poker game, along with Ron Mexico, Siro, Stoked, and several others (no offense, my wife is waiting for me to finish this so we can go eat). I don't want to silence anyone who is willing to actually engage in HONEST dialogue. I haven't put you on ignore because you are not dishonest, but you also don't say anything that I haven't already heard so I mostly skim your posts.

And babe, pointy-nosed experts? Riding the line there, bro.

 

[babe]

I hardly worry about what you say. You put my name in your posts when I haven't interacted with you in weeks.

I'm under your skin way deeper than you're under mine.

babe, a little while back I posted something and franklin took exception to it. I can't tell you how excited I was to have a DISCUSSION with someone. He directly addressed the points I had made, explained why he disagreed and offered a reasonable counter that was actually related to what I had posted. It was pure bliss. I responded back with clarification of my POV and my take on what he had posted. A few weeks later he came to my house for the jazzfanz poker game, along with Ron Mexico, Siro, Stoked, and several others (no offense, my wife is waiting for me to finish this so we can go eat). I don't want to silence anyone who is willing to actually engage in HONEST dialogue. I haven't put you on ignore because you are not dishonest, but you also don't say anything that I haven't already heard so I mostly skim your posts.

And babe, pointy-nosed experts? Riding the line there, bro.

yah, Franklin is great. Wanted me to come with him to the poker night.

I've made you the archetype JFC normative happy all's well libertarian/statist/progressive, a sort of amalgam of all the irritable revolutionaries who live off the mainstream media and believe in the brave new world while dissing conservatives with their outtadate constitutional ignorance. You are often, when Red doesn't beat you to it, the man with the latest talkin' points. Like when you were excited about the wonderful new movement dubbed "antifa". But hey, you invite the attention with your Bulletproof claim. Of course you don't mean bullets but talkin' points, but I take it as an invitation to try.

whatever, you are the life of the party in JFCland.

My ideas are actually original with me, as new takes on things others have said, perhaps. I dunno, maybe those guys who couldn't bear Brit insults have a lot in common with today's Americans who can't bear elitist hoity-toity insults either.

 

[babe]

So, anyway. This discussion about Presidents.

In diplomatic service, diplomats are generally held to be above the law in most nations. All you can do to an offending diplomat is send him home. The reason is we do not want policemen insinuating themselves into politics on that level.

So we do have some standards or rules for government officials. But in general, it is important that they cannot be harassed by mere policemen or code enforcement officers issuing warrants or making arrests, because at a certain level we need these officials to be protected from meddling nuisance harassment.

Nobody can arrest a member of the Supreme Court or the Senate or House or the President. It does not mean they are "above the law". The law that pertains is the Constitution which provides for impeachment and removal when there is enough support. The House and Senate can eject members of their own institutions, but neither the Pres nor the SC can do that. The Congress can remove Justices from the SC, or impeach the Pres. This comes from the body most directly accountable to the people.

If Mueller found anything on Trump, all he can do is refer it to the House. The DOJ is under Trump, and Trump could fire anybody in the Executive Branch, qualified only by some kinds of internal traditions which nobody has thrown out yet. Mueller has said Trump is not the subject of his investigation. It's the Russians.....But really the things he's found have been relatively trivial and outtaline and appear to be mere arm-twisting in an attempt to roll somebody to say something.... about what he's (Mueller) supposedly not investigating.

Trump has rolled his eyes and said "Whatever", but he's responsible for the waste of public funds on the snipe hunt.

and no, this is not Hannity & Levin exactly.

I know that nobody has any rights except what the public will squawk about if anybody crosses the line.
I know who owns the "news" and why it's not really "the news".

alright, so anytime anyone says anything like what I said, it is the strategy of the day to eliminate the voice. manipulate the platform, edge out the wrong opinions. Our present day manipulators of the public consciousness really will use whatever tools they have to quiet the streets.

My ggrandpa was Mark Twains partner in Virginia City. You know, that humorist who told the truth..... "Let sleeping dogs lie..... but if there's much at stake, you'd better get the newspaper to do it."

Well, Trump could not withstand the effort to remove him from office except there is a huge majority of Americans who are telling their Congressmen they won't stand for it.

The Dump strategy is a colossal failure.