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Blow it up?

Living in Toronto I watched Derozan grow up and turn into an all-star. He is one of the best mid range shooters in the league if not the best one. He can slash and finish in most situations. He can hit the 3 too but that ain't his forte. If we had him he would have never pulled a Hayward

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UtahJazz32 said:
Living in Toronto I watched Derozan grow up and turn into an all-star. He is one of the best mid range shooters in the league if not the best one. He can slash and finish in most situations. He can hit the 3 too but that ain't his forte. If we had him he would have never pulled a Hayward

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The guy played like a top-10 player in the league last night.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He was good last night... but they aren't giving him up for the package that was suggested and I think they may be the best team in the east if the cavs don't get it together.
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Boston says hello.
Hate the Celtics, but they are a helluva team. Ainge has drafted very well, while DL has wasted pick after pick on chasing a PG. Celtics have no holes because they've had a bevy of good young talent. Jazz are still missing a PF and another scorer. Hayward leaving was an unexpected blow, but DL has had chances to add talent and has not, relying on Quin to turn frogs into princes and reaching for players in the draft who never panned out such as Burke and Lyles. Jazz are in mid-tier hell unless Lindsey can pull a rabbit out of the hat at the trade deadline, or catch lightning in a bottle with a late lottery pick. And that's assuming the Jazz don't sneak into the playoffs. I don't see them doing that, though...unless a significant trade happens.
 
str8line said:
I just think we have something very special in Donovan. And Rudy. I trust that they can get us really far with a few more key pieces. Can we get there with Faves, AB and Rodney?
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Blowing it up means trading your talent for picks/young guys and starting over. If we were blowing it up we'd be trading Rudy.

If we traded Favors, Burks or Hood I wouldn't care - I've soured on those three - especially Hood. If we could sign Favors or Burks for cheap then I'd be open to it but I think Hood would get overpaid by some other team.
 
Jazz can get down to about $64M by renouncing all free agents (which would include Favs, Hood and Exum), not picking up options for Sefolosha, Jerebko and Udoh and finding a trade partner for Burks.

I think this might what the "blow it up" proposal was for the OP, although I disagree on getting rid of Rubio.

To me, the key pieces for the Jazz to retain are Gobert, Mitchell and Rubio. Ingles is decent value at his salary and a great "glue" guy. I'd keep him in the rotation, although not necessarily as a starter. Bradley is a decent prospect, so try to keep him. If I were Lindsey, I'd also try to bring Sefolosha and Udoh back.

Main goal is to find starters at the 3 and 4, one coming as a free agent (or via trade) and one via the draft (or by trading our draft pick).
 
Jack Strop said:
Jazz can get down to about $64M by renouncing all free agents (which would include Favs, Hood and Exum), not picking up options for Sefolosha, Jerebko and Udoh and finding a trade partner for Burks.

I think this might what the "blow it up" proposal was for the OP, although I disagree on getting rid of Rubio.

To me, the key pieces for the Jazz to retain are Gobert, Mitchell and Rubio. Ingles is decent value at his salary and a great "glue" guy. I'd keep him in the rotation, although not necessarily as a starter. Bradley is a decent prospect, so try to keep him. If I were Lindsey, I'd also try to bring Sefolosha and Udoh back.

Main goal is to find starters at the 3 and 4, one coming as a free agent (or via trade) and one via the draft (or by trading our draft pick).
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This is a great analysis, however. . . if the Jazz have decided to move on from Favors, Burks and/or Hood (doubtful) then they need to try to package them together at the deadline. Better to get something than to just renounce them.
 
Ellis269 said:
This is a great analysis, however. . . if the Jazz have decided to move on from Favors, Burks and/or Hood (doubtful) then they need to try to package them together at the deadline. Better to get something than to just renounce them.
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I think he was trying to get as much salary space as possible in his scenario.
If we trade those guys for something then wouldn’t we have to pay the guys we get back in the trade?
 
Ellis269 said:
This is a great analysis, however. . . if the Jazz have decided to move on from Favors, Burks and/or Hood (doubtful) then they need to try to package them together at the deadline. Better to get something than to just renounce them.
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Yes, I agree. But getting "something" - as in, a mid-tier player signed for multiple seasons, would then mean using cap space on more depth. Jazz need impact players, not backups. So getting "nothing" in return by renouncing them may be the best way to go...if Lindsey can get a FA to commit. I'd try for a late 1st from a contender for Favors. Derrick is great depth at the 4/5.

Burks is worthless at his salary, Jazz are going to have to pay a team to get rid of him. Jazz wouldn't need to renounce the rights to Hood or Exum until they sign an offer sheet with a free agent.
 
UtahJazz32 said:
Living in Toronto I watched Derozan grow up and turn into an all-star. He is one of the best mid range shooters in the league if not the best one. He can slash and finish in most situations. He can hit the 3 too but that ain't his forte. If we had him he would have never pulled a Hayward

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He can hit the 3 at a rate of 25%
 
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