Bring back Sloan.
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Absolutely, try something new and modern. The Jazz have to realize that consistency and loyalty, while great characteristics, can also lead to problems, like hiring loyal guys who do not have the requisite talent, or sticking to outmoded styles of play.
green
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I see your point, but what the everyone needs to realize is that you need players for an identity, not coaches. Sloan sucked as a coach until he had two gritty, hard nosed, play through pain, hall of famers. Those three grew together.
Bring in talent, find a coach to develop and play that talent correctly. Coaches are the director. Without the right actors, the movie still sucks.
homeytennis
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Raja Bell?
I can agree with that as long as you realise it goes both ways. With the right actors and the wrong director it'll still suck.
Litany
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These are my top two as well.
What is sad is that im convinced nothing will change.
The org thinks Ty has a difficult situation so he will get next year and probably one more at least.
If we do bad next year when rolling out your players he will get that excuse built in. Then he will get the year after to "prove" he can do it in a "regular" situation.
Problem is that's two years longer than he should have been around.
Ty isn't good at anything and I'm sad that the Jazz have to prove their "loyalty" and stubbornness by keepin him around when it is abundantly clear is he not leading a team anywhere and never will.
A-Train (old)
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Shaka Smart.
Hotdog
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No thanks to Sloan. It would be just more of the same vet b.s. That's where Ty got it ftom.
What we need is an overhaul of the entire thing. Get rid of everybody from the top down. KOC is as much to blame as Ty Corbin. I have no idea why only about 3-4 people here can see that. For some reason, 90% Jazzfanz think Corbin hired himself and he is in charge of personell moves too. Talk about heads in the sand.
Newsflash- Ty won't fire himself, didn't hire himself, cant make trades, and didn't assemble the roster.
The biggest problems on this team is the logjam of bigs and crappy point guards. Thats all on KOC.
What we need is an overhaul of the entire thing. Get rid of everybody from the top down. KOC is as much to blame as Ty Corbin. I have no idea why only about 3-4 people here can see that. For some reason, 90% Jazzfanz think Corbin hired himself and he is in charge of personell moves too. Talk about heads in the sand.
Newsflash- Ty won't fire himself, didn't hire himself, cant make trades, and didn't assemble the roster.
The biggest problems on this team is the logjam of bigs and crappy point guards. Thats all on KOC.
Basketball_Romantic23
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I think Lindsey will eventually prevail upon KOC to go in a new direction.
I wonder what Sloan could do at the point. hmmmmm
Basketball_Romantic23
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No disrespct Hack, but I think you are mistaken when it comes to KOC. He is one of the better GM's in the NBA and i'm not sure you can blame him for the Log Jam at the 4 and 5. consider how things have worked out. we traded for Jefferson to keep D-will happy and be a good team. when that did not work we still had his contract for the next 3 or 4 years. We haven't traded him becasue i bet no trade out there really helps the jazz, and what if we had traded him and brought back a player that doesn't help us, makes a ton of money, and has 3+ years left. That would not help us. Give KOC credit for taking the best player available when he took Kanter, even though he was a big. I think in taking Kanter, the Jazz realized that Jefferson was not the long term solution. If we felt he was, we may have drafted Brandon Knight. Also give him Credit for having the sagacity and audacity to trade D-will for what has turned into Kanter Favors, and a 1st rounder in this years draft. If we haven't made a trade it is becuase nothing out there fits the vision for what KOC has going forward
I hear he carries an ice pick. That can be nasty to guard.
Hotdog
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Ya ya ya. I've heard it all before. Thats pretty much the standard response. But yet here we are, with this team, and all its short comings.
I could go through all the stupid things KOC has done, but why bother. I've come to the realization that I can't change anyone's mind on this. It is what it is. KOC is god around here, and no matter how many times the team fails, it won't change.
bjunior
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dude I agree with you
bigal needed to be moved no matter what.. waived, released or a buyout or a trade for a bunch of peanuts..
1. we have two young bigs (top3 picks) that a ready to explode
2. we still have millsap
3. we have jeremy evans, who's one of the best 10min guy
4. basketball reasons
Basketball_Romantic23
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I think that whatever happens in the offseason will determine the legacy of KOC. If he re-signs BIg AL to a long term or even short term deal, than his Legacy and credibility with me will take a huge hit. I will be on board with you if this happens. I will support your disapproval of KOC tenfold. 100%. If KOC Signs Mo Williams to a long term deal, I will be on board with you (if the deal is super cheap i would be more okay with it ) But, If KOC lets MO and Big Al walk, you gotta give him some credit. You just have to. That means that the FO is moving in the right direction and understand the Jazz can't win with AL and Mo as the leaders of this team. Let's wait until after the offseason to pass judgement on KOC. Like I said, I'm with you 100% if we re-sign Big Al. However, if he walks, KOC deserves some love.
Basketball_Romantic23
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Well, you could make an argument that KAnter and Favors were not ready the start of the season. Kanter is coming into his own now and the problem with favors is that he still can't score on a consistent reliable basis. he is still growing.
underKANTER
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I like Sloan a lot but he is not the coach I want going forward. No disrespect to him, he is a legend but his philosophy is washed up for mediocre teams like Utah. He could be a good coach for the top teams or bad teams. He would have more of an impact there as for a team like the Jazz.
We are in 2013 while Sloan is still very old school with his Basketball philosophy and lifestyle. I don't think he has much left in the tank for a team like Utah. We need a coach that can start the youth movement and build through draft and not with veterans.
He is not the type of a guy that I want with our young players. He is just a more intelligent version of Corbin with more charisma and respect towards him. A very good coach but the Jazz need an other direction and a fresh wind, new blood and should fire Corbin and make a cut with the past. Utah needs a complete different new start. Corbin is a mentally retarded version of Sloan.
Stan Van Gundy should be our first choice. He will get quite the maximum out of this team.
Corbin should not be more than an assistant coach, that's obvious.
We are in 2013 while Sloan is still very old school with his Basketball philosophy and lifestyle. I don't think he has much left in the tank for a team like Utah. We need a coach that can start the youth movement and build through draft and not with veterans.
He is not the type of a guy that I want with our young players. He is just a more intelligent version of Corbin with more charisma and respect towards him. A very good coach but the Jazz need an other direction and a fresh wind, new blood and should fire Corbin and make a cut with the past. Utah needs a complete different new start. Corbin is a mentally retarded version of Sloan.
Stan Van Gundy should be our first choice. He will get quite the maximum out of this team.
Corbin should not be more than an assistant coach, that's obvious.
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