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Burks Getting Trade Attention

Saint Cy of JFC said:
Mission Accomplished is a troll good lord whose existence is based around having one really controversial bad take. Now that Hayward is gone I guess he has to attach himself to a new player to hate that makes no sense.
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Who am I exactly hating on. There is one play that is getting too many minutes that is Ingles. I'm saying Burks is good. Better then the fan base treats him.

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LoPo said:
I can agree with you that maybe Burks becomes something after he leaves Utah. For some reason, he has always been on the outs. Maybe it's because he plays completely out of control, or maybe it's because there is a disconnect with the coaching.

But don't even bring up Favors. We have gone above and beyond and out of our way for years to cater to the guy. More than 5 years ago, we should have told him to cut the crap and play center like he should. Instead, he feels like he's a PF and he never develops into anything special. Like you said, we made Kanter stand out and shoot three's. Hell, we made Millsap try to play SF.

If and hopefully soon when Favors goes elsewhere, I hope he has success. I really do. However, that will never be the fault of the Jazz. We did everything humanly possible to support him and make him a good player.
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So dumb! Out of control? How long have you watched him? Never mind. Not worth it. But the guy was the man 2 years ago. In fact one could argue he was the better player out of him and Hayward. But you see what you want to see.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
No, that was never arguable.
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They were pretty close in the 15-16 season. The next year Hayward stepped up and Favors was hurt which is when the players separated. But that 15-16 season they were fairly close talent and production wise with Favors being the younger player.

Per 100 PPG: Favors 27 Hayward 28.8
Per 100 Rebounds: Favors 13.4 Hayward 7.2
Per 100 Assists: Favors 2.5 Hayward 5.4
Per 100 Blocks: Favors 2.4 Hayward 0.5
Per 100 Steals: Favors 2.0 Hayward 1.7
Per 100 TOV: Favors 2.8 Hayward 3.7
PER: Favors 21.6 Hayward 18.3
Offensive Rating: Favors 111 Hayward 110
Defensive Rating: Favors 101 Hayward 105
WS: Favors 7.1 Hayward 8.9
But WS per 48: Favors .173 Hayward .147
BPM: Favors 2.7 Hayward 2.5

The list could go on but the point is it was very close. Favors was a much better defensive player that year by a long stretch over Hayward who was not a good defender yet. On offense Hayward was doing a little more but Favors was more efficient and getting points. Favors got hurt towards the end which is where things started going south for him. But he was better at almost every stat in the game and they were neck and neck that year.
 
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