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Heeding Steve Bannon’s Call, Election Deniers Organize to Seize Control of the GOP — and Reshape America’s Elections

The stolen election myth inspired thousands of Trump supporters to take over the Republican Party at the local level, exerting more partisan influence on how elections are run.

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If you are checking to see if I will put Bannon in the same boat with Joe Biden and Stacey Abrams to condemn them all for casting doubt on elections, I do. I'll even go further and throw Trump himself in the condemn boat. I'm hoping the Democrats don't completely screw this up like they've bungled absolutely everything else lately to get someone, anyone convicted on a sedition charge and cite some tenuous link to being motivated by Trump so that he is barred from running for reelection due to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Joe Biden, Stacey Abrams, Steve Bannon and Donald Trump can all just go away as far as I'm concerned.

Republican Lawmakers Seek New Powers Over Elections • Stateline

This is part three of Stateline’s 2022 State of the States series. The pervasive myths of a stolen 2020 presidential election and widespread voter fraud are still dominant in many state legislatures, as Republican policymakers call for more investigations and reshape election administration in a...

www.pewtrusts.org

I find the tag line combined with the underline on this article to be a hilarious mismatch: Republicans attempt to seize absolute control over the process by.....by.....requesting that an independent party be allowed double check the count of a past election.

 

[LogGrad98]

I haven't tried to get any heroin pills lately, no.

Hit me up. I know a guy.

 

[LogGrad98]

Lol i have some at home from a sore back last year. Dont be silly.
And I still haven't seen any anti pain pill protesters

Different states are handling it differently. I have an ongoing prescription for percocet, but every 3 months I have to fill out a questionnaire and my doctor has to have me get a 2nd opinion from a non-affiliated dr that it is medically necessary. As soon as he mentioned that there may be a surgical option to help with my pain they came down on my prescription and it was halted for 2 months. I still haven't had my MRI so they got another dr to confirm I needed it and resumed my prescription. It makes me and my dr feel like criminals, and for many dr's if they prescribe too much to too many people they can even get their license suspended pending state review of the cases. It is nuts. I get that there is an opioid crisis in America, but it really can affect those of us who need it very negatively. Not sure what the answer is because in many cases low-level narcotics are a better option for pain control than most anything else.

 

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so .. couple of points with tongue partly in cheek but maybe not ? the graph attached Natural immunity deniers really need to retract their ... lies dare i say ? In the light of this CDC data how can any thinking person argue that someone like Novak Djokovic shoud be vaccinated after already having Covid ? The difference is so negligible that you can't possibly rationally argue that someone who's had Covid has to be vaccinated.

Looking at the hazard ratios in the CDC link, it's pretty clear you still get something like a 25% boost in the ratio if you are vaccinated after having covid19. That's not negligible.

Flu boosters have been around for how many years, tested for how long ? And the known rate of serious adverse reactions ?? Now we're being mandated after 3 months here in a lot of sectors. Again the flu shot / Covid booster Not the same, the flu shot is not being used under emergency authorisation, the manufacturers are not legally responsible for reactions, nobody is being mandated to take a flu shot. This sort of answer makes you look like you're either being argumentative for the sake of it or just pulling examples to prove your pre conceived bias.

I'm mandated to take flu shots. In the US, you can get tested regularly instead of getting a vaccine in almost all cases, and free testing sites are wide-spread.

There have been hundreds of millions of shots, and the contents of the mRNA vaccines are known to have a short duration in the human body.

I have heard Joe Biden, and other politicians particularly early in the piece specifically say "you will not get Covid" if you are vaccinated. And the messaging from our governments here was very much firstly "you won't get it" to then "you cannot spread it" etc etc. Pfizer reported 100 % efficacy in it's early trials as a starting point. If you are going to argue that the goal posts have constantly shifted about the claims of the vaccine .. then well again see above.

Yes, the claims have shifted as the vaccine has shifted, no arguments there.

Children .. in Australia over the course of the pandemic ONE child aged 5-11 has died with Covid. That poor soul had terminal cancer. So yes here zero mortality in this age. You yourself have just acknowledged comorbidities which i have always said "in healthy children" I consider kids being overweight a comorbidity for Covid so let me make that clear, and i can only assume how poor the health of the average american kid is and how overweight so many are. So again .. see above.

I am *very* tired of seeing people throw around "comorbidity" as if it means the death doesn't matter or was inevitable. My age and sex are both comorbidities for the covid, even though I'll probably live another 30 years (based on family history) and have no intention of changing the latter. If you almost certainly would have been alive but for covid19, you were killed by covid19.

I am certainly coming from the point of view that "first do no harm" is really important You would have a different starting point of accepting a certain amount of collateral damage in order to achieve a certain outcome ?

All vaccines (and all prophylactic medicines) carry a risk of harm. I have a starting point that you have to look at the overall risk for both the patient (and the community, when talking about communicable diseases).

I certainly don't see you as being unreasonable. I think if you're honest you'd have to consider that you start with your own strong opinions and try to at least to a degree see things that support those unless it's quite clear you're wrong. As we all do.

I certainly learn more from you than from most posters I have disagreements with, and I am very appreciative for that.

 

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The thing about Covid is it's made you rethink everything about how you feel. This week, I've felt really tired and just unenergetic. No sore throat, headache, fever, anything like that, I just feel like I'm operating at half-speed.

Do I have Covid? Am I just worn down from work? If I do get sick, is it Covid or the normal cold?

I'll be very glad when this peak finally wears off as the drop will probably be swift.

Go out for a four mile run and you’ll feel fine.

 

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Go out for a four mile run and you’ll feel fine.

Better yet, sniff some glue.

 

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What’s kinda funny is that folks like Rand Paul are the ones killing off conservatives by feeding them disinformation. Crazy times.

 

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IMHO, again a good article from a Dr Edward Laane (use built in translation in browser).

Edward Laane ⟩ Nakatumisnumbrid on suured, kuid ei koorma enam haiglaid

Kuressaare haigla ravijuht Edward Laane on jätkuvalt seisukohal, et koroonat tuleb käsitleda endeemilise haigusena ja suured päevased nakatumisnumbrid ei tähenda enam ohtu meditsiinisüsteemile.

saartehaal.postimees.ee

How is the general situation in Alaska (as probably the closest in climate wise and population density to Estonia than any other state)? For example, hospitals and whether schools operate normally or not?

 

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IMHO, again a good article from a Dr Edward Laane (use built in translation in browser).

Edward Laane ⟩ Nakatumisnumbrid on suured, kuid ei koorma enam haiglaid

Kuressaare haigla ravijuht Edward Laane on jätkuvalt seisukohal, et koroonat tuleb käsitleda endeemilise haigusena ja suured päevased nakatumisnumbrid ei tähenda enam ohtu meditsiinisüsteemile.

saartehaal.postimees.ee

How is the general situation in Alaska (as probably the closest in climate wise and population density to Estonia than any other state)? For example, hospitals and whether schools operate normally or not?

Alaska has about 2% the population density of Estonia. Minnesota is a probably better comparison in both density and climate.

 

[LogGrad98]

IMHO, again a good article from a Dr Edward Laane (use built in translation in browser).

Edward Laane ⟩ Nakatumisnumbrid on suured, kuid ei koorma enam haiglaid

Kuressaare haigla ravijuht Edward Laane on jätkuvalt seisukohal, et koroonat tuleb käsitleda endeemilise haigusena ja suured päevased nakatumisnumbrid ei tähenda enam ohtu meditsiinisüsteemile.

saartehaal.postimees.ee

How is the general situation in Alaska (as probably the closest in climate wise and population density to Estonia than any other state)? For example, hospitals and whether schools operate normally or not?

Google translate is pretty amazing. Sometimes it gets it really wrong though. lol

"We're not talking about the virus disappearing, it's staying with us. Just as we get a runny nose every year, we're likely to end up with a coronary heart. And if it's a runny nose or a sore throat, humanity has to come to terms with it. "I'm not getting sick anymore," said Edward Laane.

 

[lauriandres]

Google translate is pretty amazing. Sometimes it gets it really wrong though. lol

the sentence: Nii nagu me haigestume igal aastal nohusse, jääme tõenäoliselt ka koroonasse. Ja kui see väljendub nohus või kurguvalus, siis tuleb inimkonnal sellega leppida means: Like we get runny nose every year, we are also going to get some kind of coronavirus. And if the experience of the end user is runny nose or sore throat, then we just have to accept it.
Estonian language has indeed some funny aspects; for example - "puu särk" means "shirt belonging to tree" while "puusärk" means "coffin". Pronouncation is almost same to ears of the foreigner.

 

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Everybody please welcome omicron subvariant BA.2. 1.5 times more infectious than BA.1