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Current Players NBA Draft Round 1: Grayson's Hands vs. ONE LOVE

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

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Grayson's Hands said:
So Doncic the most NBA ready prospect in the draft won’t help his team win and Porzingis will come back healthy.

Makes sense.

Why do I even try drafting a team with these dumb comments. We saw three rookies lead their teams in the playoffs this year. It’s Doncic for crying out loud.
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Yes, that is the most likely thing to happen. Most players return within a year from an ACL surgery. Most rookies, even the most "ready" ones don't help their team win. Those are pretty simple facts.

Most rookies are pretty hyped and don't succeed in the NBA period, let alone contribute to winning basketball their rookie year, especially ones that young. He is only 19.

Almost every team sacrifices winning to get lottery picks on the court. They show flashes and have great moments but overall don't make winning plays consistently.

Drafting Luka and other rookies is a big risk in these things. No one should start them. They might pay off in the voting next year, if you get lucky and they are the rare exception. Right now it shouldn't get you votes.

How many lottery picks last year helped their team win? 3? Or so? And that was an extremely rare draft class to have that many players help win. 2016 had 0 players help their teams win. Arguably Simmons would have but he was out hurt.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Yes, that is the most likely thing to happen. Most players return within a year from an ACL surgery. Most rookies, even the most "ready" ones don't help their team win. Those are pretty simple facts.

Most rookies are pretty hyped and don't succeed in the NBA period, let alone contribute to winning basketball their rookie year, especially ones that young. He is only 19.

Almost every team sacrifices winning to get lottery picks on the court. They show flashes and have great moments but overall don't make winning plays consistently.

Drafting Luka and other rookies is a big risk in these things. No one should start them. They might pay off in the voting next year, if you get lucky and they are the rare exception. Right now it shouldn't get you votes.

How many lottery picks last year helped their team win? 3? Or so? And that was an extremely rare draft class to have that many players help win. 2016 had 0 players help their teams win. Arguably Simmons would have but he was out hurt.
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Didn’t Luka play pretty well against the USA team when he was 17?
 
I voted for Grayson's hands. His back court and bench is better. AD and Porzingis seems like terrific frontcourt but Is Porzingis even playing before All star break?
 
Gotta go with one loves big guy combo.

disclaimer: When i vote on these things i dont factor injuries at all.
 
MVP said:
I voted for Grayson's hands. His back court and bench is better. AD and Porzingis seems like terrific frontcourt but Is Porzingis even playing before All star break?
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How does anyone think Grayson's bench is better?

Lou, Melo, and Warren are very redundant as high usage scorers who are awful on defense (Lou is arguably the worst defensive player in the NBA, Melo is arguably in the bottom 10, and Warren is really bad too).

Add to that Warren cant shoot at all, so I dont see any reason for him to even play (so I personally dont count that much against him because in my mind most teams would do 8 man rotations for these things). Lou's ability drastically drops in the playoffs where refs dont fall for his cheap foul drawing tricks and the physicality picks up on both ends. I sill think Melo is a good player capable of being a very good bench player, but he kind of dropped the ball in OKC and I don't really trust him at this point given how uncomfortable he is without the ball in his mid-range isos.

So who's really impressing you on his bench? I still love Iggy, but he is getting old and his age started showing last year. I also don't think he is of great use in this series because the bulk of OL's team is concentrated as guards and bigs, so Iggy's ability to guard the top tier forwards isnt as big here.

Gortat is OK as a backup center, but he turns 35 this season and looks pretty washed.
 
The only thing I really don't like about OL's team is that he drafted Barnes/Gallinari/Portis when he did. Could have had a way better team with different picks. His team at least has some versatility though. I'd probably go with Murray/Matthews/Ibaka as my main 3 off the bench, but he could fit in Gallinari as a stretch 4, especially given how offensively challenged GH's 4's are.

Grayson really screwed up with his team construction. His optimal lineup is Dragic/Harden/Iggy/Green/Gasol. That's the lineup that can hang defensively with OL's team. The problem is that they don't have much shooting there. Gasol and Green can shoot a bit, but they arent consistent. I also don't know how either would fit with Harden's ball dominant offensive style. Both are use to being very involved in their team's offense through ball movement and facilitating. There is also no rim running big to pair with Harden, even off the bench, which is a huge key in making him successful.
 
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