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Dante's Pre-Draft Measurements and How He Compares

addictionary said:
Smart is a damn pitbull. He will be a great defender. But Exum won't be always like that against him. This guy is competing for the win. But young guys these days, you don't usually see the play and have fun attitude in them like Jordan and such. You only see the win it and look good whatever it takes.
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I think Marcus Smart settles into the league as a stronger bigger Avery Bradley defensively.
 
Earlier this morning on DJ & PK/1280 the zone they talked to Tom Read who is apart of a https://believethehypenba.com/ in Australia and has seen plenty of Exum to know what he is about. He said his strength is beating people off the dribble and making the right plays. Then he said Exum's hole in his game is his shot but he is working on it. Then said over the last 6 months or so he has put on 10 lbs and getting stronger. He did say if he had to compare Exum to a player in today's game it would be MCW even though it isn't a great comparison he said but mainly from a size standpoint but Exum has mirrored his game off of Kobe/Manu/D-Rose by creating his own shot and going into contact to draw fouls. Then said we should really see what Exum really is all about by the time he turns 20-21 and completely take over the team and put them on his back as a floor general.

Link to the interview
https://kfanav.s3.amazonaws.com/20140702_070214_Tom-Read-WEB.mp3
 
That1UtahFan said:
Earlier this morning on DJ & PK/1280 the zone they talked to Tom Read who is apart of a https://believethehypenba.com/ in Australia and has seen plenty of Exum to know what he is about. He said his strength is beating people off the dribble and making the right plays. Then he said Exum's hole in his game is his shot but he is working on it. Then said over the last 6 months or so he has put on 10 lbs and getting stronger. He did say if he had to compare Exum to a player in today's game it would be MCW even though it isn't a great comparison he said but mainly from a size standpoint but Exum has mirrored his game off of Kobe/Manu/D-Rose by creating his own shot and going into contact to draw fouls. Then said we should really see what Exum really is all about by the time he turns 20-21 and completely take over the team and put them on his back as a floor general.

Link to the interview
https://kfanav.s3.amazonaws.com/20140702_070214_Tom-Read-WEB.mp3
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I need to change my boxers.
 
sojodave said:
He's 6'4.5" in socks. That is exactly my measurement and I'm never measured in shoes. I know they play in their shoes, but their height should be measured with socks. Their weight is listed without shoes. Sorry, rant over.
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do they play in a barefoot league? If you don't touch the field of play in anything other than your shoes, then your effective playing height equals your height in shoes. Finding a problem with this line of thinking is stupid.
 
Wow, I don't care about any criticisms, Exum is FAST and he can change directions pretty quickly too. If you give him a strong high screen it would be almost impossible for the switch man to cover him (Notice the complete failure of the Aussies to do this to Smart. Just get in front of him enough to hold him up for half a second. I'm not sure what the supposed screen guy was actually doing. @3:35 & 4:40. At 4:30, they get it right and Exum blows by everyone.) Has anyone seen a crossover to his game? Cause if he had one of those. . .
 
da ThRONe said:
Those combine athletic testing #'s are extremely misleading at best.
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Combine numbers can be misleading because some of the attributes they are testing don't easily translate to the playing surface. Some players' speed measurements don't translate because they slow down when they have the ball or they don't run crisp offense. But Exum appears to lose very little speed while dribbling (and we can hope Snyder will install a crisp offense). You should also see the length of Exum's first step: it's Manu-like; it'll get him past defenders.

You'd have to be a serious cynic to doubt Exum's speed. It's there, for real.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];861566 said:
Combine numbers can be misleading because some of the attributes they are testing don't easily translate to the playing surface. Some players' speed measurements don't translate because they slow down when they have the ball or they don't run crisp offense. But Exum appears to lose very little speed while dribbling (and we can hope Snyder will install a crisp offense). You should also see the length of Exum's first step: it's Manu-like; it'll get him past defenders.

You'd have to be a serious cynic to doubt Exum's speed. It's there, for real.
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Look at him at 4:19, he shifts into another gear, simply accelerating past his defender and covers the ground from a few steps behind the 3 point line to the basket with his left foot only touching the floor twice. When he is at full steam there is almost no reaction time available to the second defender, and the US defenders weren't Swiss cheese. He has a crafty shot that will almost be impossible to block from behind and to get in front of him you will just have to guess correctly where he is going. I'm not sure he SHOULD play above the rim, because going straight to the rim allows the defender to react to a spot rather than the player.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];861556 said:
do they play in a barefoot league? If you don't touch the field of play in anything other than your shoes, then your effective playing height equals your height in shoes. Finding a problem with this line of thinking is stupid.
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The problem aren't just the fact that they play in shoes, but that they pad them to get better results in order to increase their chances of getting drafted higher. The only way to get a unilaterally accurate measurement of heights are measuring barefoot. Honestly height is slightly over stated in the NBA. Wingspans are more important. So if you say there's no barefoot league I say there's no league where guys handle the ball with their heads.
 
sojodave said:
He's 6'4.5" in socks. That is exactly my measurement and I'm never measured in shoes. I know they play in their shoes, but their height should be measured with socks. Their weight is listed without shoes. Sorry, rant over.
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I agree measuring in shoes is silly but he is 6'6" officially now. Which makes him the tallest PG/CG in this deeeeep draft along with Spencer Dinwiddie.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Would I rather have this 3.19 than a 3.49? Yes, obviously. Athleticism is important. But these mean next to nothing, really. There are plenty of guys who are quicker than Exum who stink or never even set foot on an NBA court.
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Can you give us some examples, please? Maybe some dude's that were drafter top 10. Thanks.
 
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