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Detroit to Explore PG Market with Injury to Jackson

Hmm...I wonder if they could get creative with this. Mack isn't worth a first round pick, but what about a first round pick swap?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
With the potential new cba containing two way contracts between NBA and dleague I could see second round picks being much more valuable. If you can roster those extra guys you have more chances to find the diamond in the rough. Part of the reason we've sold picks was because we had no where to put these guys. I'd consider moving Mack for a good second rounder or a couple second rounders even if one is a few years away. Stack up those second rounders DL.
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And if Exum or Hill goes down with an injury, do we really want to be relying on Neto at the backup pg spot? Is it really worth the gamble with all Utah has at stake this season? Utah HAS to win this year with Hayward's future status in question. Even if some fans see little difference in Mack or Neto, I don't think Quin sees it that way. Actually, I could see Mack playing a bigger role than most expect this year, as Exum is bound to struggle at times.

This isn't the year to gamble on losing a few more games in the present in order to collect future assets.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
And if Exum or Hill goes down with an injury, do we really want to be relying on Neto at the backup pg spot? Is it really worth the gamble with all Utah has at stake this season? Utah HAS to win this year with Hayward's future status in question. Even if some fans see little difference in Mack or Neto, I don't think Quin sees it that way. Actually, I could see Mack playing a bigger role than most expect this year, as Exum is bound to struggle at times.

This isn't the year to gamble on losing a few more games in the present in order to collect future assets.
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I like Neto. I think if we lost exum burks could pick up more minutes... I get your point but I'm not sure we need to be 4 deep at pg.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
And if Exum or Hill goes down with an injury, do we really want to be relying on Neto at the backup pg spot? Is it really worth the gamble with all Utah has at stake this season? Utah HAS to win this year with Hayward's future status in question. Even if some fans see little difference in Mack or Neto, I don't think Quin sees it that way. Actually, I could see Mack playing a bigger role than most expect this year, as Exum is bound to struggle at times.

This isn't the year to gamble on losing a few more games in the present in order to collect future assets.
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Quin also preferred Booker over Gobert in crunch time last year, so that's not saying much.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
With the potential new cba containing two way contracts between NBA and dleague I could see second round picks being much more valuable. If you can roster those extra guys you have more chances to find the diamond in the rough. Part of the reason we've sold picks was because we had no where to put these guys. I'd consider moving Mack for a good second rounder or a couple second rounders even if one is a few years away. Stack up those second rounders DL.
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that'd be an excellent change to the cba.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I like Neto. I think if we lost exum burks could pick up more minutes... I get your point but I'm not sure we need to be 4 deep at pg.
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Exum, Hill, and Mack can all play minutes at either guard spot. I know you understand this.... but I think this flexibility covers more than just "point guard." Hood and Burks haven't been the most injury-free players, after all.
 
KqWIN said:
Quin also preferred Booker over Gobert in crunch time last year, so that's not saying much.
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Only because he knew teams would just put Rudy on the FT line where he was guaranteed to at least miss one, if not both. It's hard to get stops or rebounds when the best defender and rebounder is sitting on the bench. On the other hand, you can't give up offensive possessions by having a guy in there that can't make FT's.
 
NAOS said:
that'd be an excellent change to the cba.
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That's what I heard, too. Teams might be able to assign 4 players to the DLeague and maintain their rights. I'm assuming they'll get paid more than the measly amount current DLeague players receive.

But it still doesn't change the fact most 2nd rounders never see significant - if any - NBA action. Mack and Neto are already decent backups. Trading either for a 2nd is likely just giving away an asset. A 1st round pick swap, maybe top-5 protected is the only decent trade, IMO.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Van Gundy is, a Coach/GM, they are prone to making win now trades and not valuing late 1st rounders.
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They're not giving up a first for Mack and/or Ingles - you're out of your mind if you think they will.

They can get better value for a first somewhere else in the league.

And what's a late first rounder? Detroit's winning maybe 44-45 games this year. They'll probably pick 19 or 20
 
Cunning Linguist said:
We're not getting a 1st for Mack. The better question is if Exum looks really good come January, what could we get for Hill? Let's face it. We're not winning it all this year but if the Pistons are willing to give up an unprotected 1st for Hill, then I think that's something we really need to consider. That would give us a ton of assets in what is a killer 2017 draft.
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Excuse me kind sir, yes we are.
 
Tangential case study. Every football expert said there was no way the Eagles land a first round pick for Sam Bradford. Desperation caused by injuries from teams wanting to win now can lead to some interesting outcomes.

I think there is an outside chance they land a lottery-protected first. Look at the average player drafted post-lottery. Don't you think that Mack's proven abilities are in that range?

Look at 2016 draft late firsts, where would you rank him?

Cedric Simmons
Rodney Carney
Shawne Williams
Oleksiy Pecherov
Quincy Douby
Renaldo Balkman
Rajon Rondo
Marcus Williams
Josh Boone
Kyle Lowry
Shannon Brown
Jordan Farmar
Sergio Rodríguez
Maurice Ager
Mardy Collins
 
You amoking some good buds buddy? No nba team is going give a first round pick for Mack or Neto. Might as well *** Whitey to the list too because I always hear people here over valuing his value also... Neto you would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder out of him. Most teams can just go over the pond and sign someone who wil lgive the same value as Neto and they get to save the draft pick. Neto doesn't have any trade value and not sure why you Jazz fans think he does.


Stifle Tower said:
That's what I heard, too. Teams might be able to assign 4 players to the DLeague and maintain their rights. I'm assuming they'll get paid more than the measly amount current DLeague players receive.

But it still doesn't change the fact most 2nd rounders never see significant - if any - NBA action. Mack and Neto are already decent backups. Trading either for a 2nd is likely just giving away an asset. A 1st round pick swap, maybe top-5 protected is the only decent trade, IMO.
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Wow I never seen someone fail so miserable by trying to use names. Those players were out of what last 10 draft classes? Talk about cherry picking names here..Plus comparing to football another major fail here by you. Also you are talking about the qb and the Vikings already had a running game and defense. Tryign to compare the 2 between sports is a major fail by you. F-------


silesian said:
Tangential case study. Every football expert said there was no way the Eagles land a first round pick for Sam Bradford. Desperation caused by injuries from teams wanting to win now can lead to some interesting outcomes.

I think there is an outside chance they land a lottery-protected first. Look at the average player drafted post-lottery. Don't you think that Mack's proven abilities are in that range?

Look at 2016 draft late firsts, where would you rank him?

Cedric Simmons
Rodney Carney
Shawne Williams
Oleksiy Pecherov
Quincy Douby
Renaldo Balkman
Rajon Rondo
Marcus Williams
Josh Boone
Kyle Lowry
Shannon Brown
Jordan Farmar
Sergio Rodríguez
Maurice Ager
Mardy Collins
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