Do you want our pick to convey this year?

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I made a take that it looked like our FO prioritzed 2024 picks and I dont like that over the other possible options. Then that take was attacked by @silesian and I defended it. How is that "losing your marbles"?

To you what were the other options?

 

[HermanG]

Been through this before but I'll give it one more try.....

Were there better offers that would have helped the team more than the one Danny accepted? I tend to think Danny knows more than I do about this so I'd say that it is highly unlikely that he had a bias so strong for 2024 draft that he would reject better offers. Picks in the upcoming draft historically have more value than later drafts, partially because GMs like to keep their jobs, partially because fans are impatient, and partially due to the "time value" (a win this year is more valuable than a win in 5 years). So the idea is not crazy.

The crazy part is the expectation that this would be much more than a "tie breaker" between similar value offers.

Would a well defined 2024 late first be worth more than an unprotected 1rst from the Warriors 2025? probably not. Danny would probably take the Warrior's offer

Would a well defined 2024 late first be worth more than highly protected 2027 pick from the Nuggets? Probably. Danny would probably reject the Nugget's offer.

The problem is that you have nothing but guesswork that better offers were available and guesswork is the entire foundation of your argument.

Your side of the argument is as much guesswork as mine. You base yours in trusting the FO, I base mine on history and commonly accepted beliefs.

Besides, my argument doesnt even contradict the fact that the FO is driving the best interests of the club. Getting 2-3 rookies is gonna help with the cap going forward and provide trade chips if you deal with teams who are looking to tank.

Its just that all the other options (including keeping Simone) provide more support that the build up is about to commence.

 

[HermanG]

You are from Finland?

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Yes.

 

[HermanG]

To you what were the other options?

Future picks (can hold on to them longer for trade purposes) or young players who are closer to useful than next years rookies were options that I would have preferred to target.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I made a take that it looked like our FO prioritzed 2024 picks and I dont like that over the other possible options. Then that take was attacked by @silesian and I defended it. How is that "losing your marbles"?

You're not the only Finnish poster.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Been through this before but I'll give it one more try.....

Were there better offers that would have helped the team more than the one Danny accepted? I tend to think Danny knows more than I do about this so I'd say that it is highly unlikely that he had a bias so strong for 2024 draft that he would reject better offers. Picks in the upcoming draft historically have more value than later drafts, partially because GMs like to keep their jobs, partially because fans are impatient, and partially due to the "time value" (a win this year is more valuable than a win in 5 years). So the idea is not crazy.

The crazy part is the expectation that this would be much more than a "tie breaker" between similar value offers.

Would a well defined 2024 late first be worth more than an unprotected 1rst from the Warriors 2025? probably not. Danny would probably take the Warrior's offer

Would a well defined 2024 late first be worth more than highly protected 2027 pick from the Nuggets? Probably. Danny would probably reject the Nugget's offer.

The problem is that you have nothing but guesswork that better offers were available and guesswork is the entire foundation of your argument.

The Jazz wanted picks in 2024. They wanted skin in the game come draft day so they could get action.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Future picks (can hold on to them longer for trade purposes) or young players who are closer to useful than next years rookies were options that I would have preferred to target.

I don’t think future picks were an option. We were getting the worst of 3picks. Detroit wasn’t giving us one of their picks that will most likely be very good picks over the next few years.

 

[silesian]

The Jazz wanted picks in 2024. They wanted skin in the game come draft day so they could get action.

No doubt. It just seems to me that they got them with some sensible deals.

 

[Tanktastic]

The Jazz wanted picks in 2024. They wanted skin in the game come draft day so they could get action.

To what end? What can the FO achieve on draft day that they couldnt've done otherwise?

Instead there's a significant chance the team is bringing in 2-3 new rookies, having 6-7 players on the roster with 0-2 years experience. Or shopping the picks at a discount. And if they do bring in 2-3 new rookies, then their hands are tied a single path: full tank.

 

[fishonjazz]

To what end? What can the FO achieve on draft day that they couldnt've done otherwise?

Instead there's a significant chance the team is bringing in 2-3 new rookies, having 6-7 players on the roster with 0-2 years experience. Or shopping the picks at a discount. And if they do bring in 2-3 new rookies, then their hands are tied a single path: full tank.

Yep. Pretty depressing. You should probably just give up on the jazz and move on

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[Tanktastic]

Yep. Pretty depressing. You should probably just give up on the jazz and move on

Maybe you should.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

To what end? What can the FO achieve on draft day that they couldnt've done otherwise?

Instead there's a significant chance the team is bringing in 2-3 new rookies, having 6-7 players on the roster with 0-2 years experience. Or shopping the picks at a discount. And if they do bring in 2-3 new rookies, then their hands are tied a single path: full tank.

Help next years pick be a top 3 maybe we can tank properly this time. Lol