Do you want our pick to convey this year?

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I have a great grasp on the Cavs lol. I think you have a bad grasp on the sustainability of their current team. For instance you suggest Donovan and Allen have carried them to winning which is correct. One or both of those guys will be off the roster in 2.5 years. It’s a virtual guarantee. Both hit free agency and Mobley will be on a spendy extension. So the guys that have shown less ability to stay on the court will be what they are relying on.

They are very good today, but what happens when you rob Peter to pay Paul? They leveraged their future to build this now. In a year or two they pay the piper. Anyone can tell you what they are seeing now. We are looking 2.5 years into the future. Trust me… garland, Don, Allen, Mobley will not all be there.

It is definitely not a guarantee that one or both of Mitchell and Allen will be gone in 2.5 years. Garland on the other hand is probably moved and they should be able to get a pretty nice haul of picks plus a cost controlled young player or two to help them. They are in a very good situation and to act otherwise doesn't make sense.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It is definitely not a guarantee that one or both of Mitchell and Allen will be gone in 2.5 years. Garland on the other hand is probably moved and they should be able to get a pretty nice haul of picks plus a cost controlled young player or two to help them. They are in a very good situation and to act otherwise doesn't make sense.

There's no way in hell they are moving Garland unless Mitchell demands it to re-sign. Mitchell is gone. He's going to leave unless Cleveland makes it to the conference finals, and even then, he is probably going to NY or LA

 

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There's no way in hell they are moving Garland unless Mitchell demands it to re-sign. Mitchell is gone. He's going to leave unless Cleveland makes it to the conference finals, and even then, he is probably going to NY or LA

The obsession from this board about Mitchell leaving is out of control. He's in a good spot with the cavs. Also yeah they aren't going to trade Garland until Mitchell extends but when he does they likely move Garland to rework finances and roster setup with Mitchell playing his best at the 1.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The obsession from this board about Mitchell leaving is out of control. He's in a good spot with the cavs. Also yeah they aren't going to trade Garland until Mitchell extends but when he does they likely move Garland to rework finances and roster setup with Mitchell playing his best at the 1.

Trust me bud, it goes way beyond this board/Jazz fans.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It is definitely not a guarantee that one or both of Mitchell and Allen will be gone in 2.5 years. Garland on the other hand is probably moved and they should be able to get a pretty nice haul of picks plus a cost controlled young player or two to help them. They are in a very good situation and to act otherwise doesn't make sense.

It is because with those four they will be over 180m in salary or thereabouts. Mobley won’t be moved so Allen is likely the piece that bounces. Don is below 50/50 to be there in 2.5 years… even if he extends… so they will need to churn. Brooklyn sold off three superstars and got cost controlled pieces and picks… how’s that going?

I would bet large sums of money Cavs don’t make it to the finals in the next 5 years.

 

[homeytennis]

Sarah Todd's article made it pretty clear we will retain this year's pick unless a miracle happens. Hardy and Sarah basically said at the moment that Tay Henny sucks and Hardy hinted at a bad attitude. But he and Key and Brice are the future so we will see their names in lights for awhile.

 

[Tanktastic]

I would bet large sums of money Cavs don’t make it to the finals in the next 5 years.

But that's never been the issue. It's that the Cavs are more likely to be in the lottery than past the 1st round. Which they're not.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

But he and Key and Brice are the future so we will see their names in lights for awhile.

Good God that is depressing.

Can we at least stop the charade that Sensabaugh is an NBA player?

 

[HermanG]

I think the positive scenario is another lottery pick that can net you a potentially good player or a great trade asset. The team could play okay and just not be enough or load management happens. I see more positives the other way, which is why I hope for it but they are both fine at this point.

The pick is the result of how this season plays out. I questionned if there is a positive scenario that leads to that outcome.

Assuming that Hawks, Nets and Rockets hold their current win pct, that means they will end up with 36, 33 and 37 wins respectively.

So if that was the case and Atlanta doesnt get to the playoffs from the 10th seed, then we would need to go 10-18 the rest of the way to finish below the Rockets for the 10th spot (tied with Atlanta), and that 10-18 would be done in 16 home games and 12 road games. And even in that case, there is a chance that one of the 11-14 teams gets lucky in the lottery and we end up giving the #11 pick away.

 

[HermanG]

If Atlanta or Rockets dont improve their pace, we are going to have to be WORSE than we were at the start of the year where we started 10-18 with 13 home games and 15 road games.

This time we need to go 10-18 in 16 home games and 12 road games, and that would lead us to finish at 36 wins 1 below what Houston is projected (by win pct) to finish with.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But that's never been the issue. It's that the Cavs are more likely to be in the lottery than past the 1st round. Which they're not.

I understand. In the 5 years that we control their draft I will go ahead and guarantee at least once they will be in the lotto. It will be multiple times if Don bails on them.

 

[Step-Back Lauri]

If Atlanta or Rockets dont improve their pace, we are going to have to be WORSE than we were at the start of the year where we started 10-18 with 13 home games and 15 road games.

This time we need to go 10-18 in 16 home games and 12 road games, and that would lead us to finish at 36 wins 1 below what Houston is projected (by win pct) to finish with.

Seems likely. The trades ****ed all working rotations. We will win few bad teams but lose almost every other game.