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Seriously? That is messed up. Someone you don't like, you would want to silence them?
Not someone I don't like. Someone who is evil and bad for the county and world.
I don't like Ted cruz but don't want him silenced
I would love if someone silenced Putin though.
 
Some folks would say the same thing about elections, yet others want to pretend they are squeaky clean. Nobody would dare hide a presidential candidates corrupt business dealings with foreign governments because it could sway an election, right? You cant have it both ways all the time on every issue- its catching up to the democratic party. The lies, flip flopping, double standards, etc cant last forever.
Nah see, there is no comparison for trump. Lots of politicians have done bad things. Some have done the same bad thing as trump. Trump has done all the bad things all the other politicians have done and then some.
If you can find me another politician who has ripped people off with a fake university, used a charity fraudulently, cheated on his wife with a porn star and paid her off with hush money, extorted a foreign leader to attack his political adversary, incited a mob to attack the nations capital, stole money from citizens with a build the wall fund scheme, stole money from citizens with a stop the steal fund, stole documents from the Whitehouse and wouldn't return them to the point the FBI had to forcibly remove them, had his business convicted in court of fabricating its tax info..... Well if you can find me a politician with a list like that (not even sure I covered everything) and who acts like as big of a douchebag as him then I definitely want anything and everything bad to happen them by whatever means necessary. Silence the **** out of anyone like that please.
 
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Ya like I said I'm more concerned about the legal and political shenanigans that the establishment is willing to do to silence and harass a political opponent. I do realize now that the conversation here on this sight will never evolve beyond Trump bad, **** Trump, Bad man Trump, orange man bad etc etc... Morons
Well I mean thre bold part of your post is referencing trump. That is literally who we are taking about.
Who else is the establishment silencing with legal and political shenanigans? You act like this is some slippery slope. Maybe trump is a uniquely corrupt and immoral douchebag and that's why this is happening to him. Also, do you really think he is being silenced? He literally appeared on CNN right after his loss in court. He ain't silent. He loud as ****
 
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I was speaking hypothetically… of course none of the US elections have ever had any shenanigans ever. They are all on the up and up… some would say squeaky clean. I can’t explain why democrats cried about the election results of 2016 for 5 straight years.
Just like this harassment of Trump is nothing political. It’s not political, it’s just his shady past and poor decisions catching up with him. Right?
Just like I wouldn’t suspect any of Bidens past poor decisions to come out and be reported on by the media shills unless the deep state decides they don’t want him to run again. If they decide he shouldn’t run again we’ll start to hear more about the laptop and classified docs and Tara Reade etc…
The deep state lololololololol. Trump is a victim. It makes sense now. For someone who "doesn't like trump" you sure sound like him.
 
Nah see, there is no comparison for trump. Lots of politicians have done bad things. Some have done the same bad thing as trump. Trump has done all the bad things all the other politicians have done and then some.
If you can find me another politician who has ripped people off with a fake university, used a charity fraudulently, cheated on his wife with a porn star and paid her off when hush money, extorted a foreign leader to attack his political, adversary, incited a mob to attack the nations capital, stole money from citizens with a build the wall fund scheme, stole money from citizens with a stop the steal fund, store documents grub the Whitehouse and wouldn't return them to the point the FBI had to forcibly remove them, had his business convicted in court of fabricating its tax info..... Well if you can find me a politician with a list like that (not even sure I covered everything) and who acts like as big of a douchebag as him then I definitely want anything and everything bad to happen them by whatever means necessary. Silence the **** out of anyone like that please.
Holy moly- ya you’re not deranged. So I’ve heard that those people who are obsessed with Trump are obsessed because they see trump in their own shadow and that is why they hate him so much. I’ve noticed in folks like Sam Harris, fish, and thriller that they would prefer to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. They would prefer to be told what to believe and to silence any outside opinions by force if necessary and are even willing to kill anyone with a different opinion. They don’t want folks to be able to make decisions for themselves. They want war and more big government. This is who are the hard corps Democratic Party now.
 
Holy moly- ya you’re not deranged. So I’ve heard that those people who are obsessed with Trump are obsessed because they see trump in their own shadow and that is why they hate him so much. I’ve noticed in folks like Sam Harris, fish, and thriller that they would prefer to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. They would prefer to be told what to believe and to silence any outside opinions by force if necessary and are even willing to kill anyone with a different opinion. They don’t want folks to be able to make decisions for themselves. They want war and more big government. This is who are the hard corps Democratic Party now.
This is ridiculous.
 
This is ridiculous.
Not to mention how fish and thriller (among others) also like to team up on people here and bully them. Is that not a very trump sorta thing to do? Especially those opinions they don’t agree with? Makes sense to me…
 
Holy moly- ya you’re not deranged. So I’ve heard that those people who are obsessed with Trump are obsessed because they see trump in their own shadow and that is why they hate him so much. I’ve noticed in folks like Sam Harris, fish, and thriller that they would prefer to live in an authoritarian dictatorship. They would prefer to be told what to believe and to silence any outside opinions by force if necessary and are even willing to kill anyone with a different opinion. They don’t want folks to be able to make decisions for themselves. They want war and more big government. This is who are the hard corps Democratic Party now.

Lol.
I will wait for you to provide me a politician who has done things i listed. Trump is different than all the other politicians as he is much much worse.
 
So I’ve heard that those people who are obsessed with Trump are obsessed because they see trump in their own shadow and that is why they hate him so much.
That’s interesting, might be some truth to that I suppose. People do often project their own faults onto others as well, kind of a similar dynamic.

Myself, I was like a lot of other folks, even many prominent conservatives, who just instantly recognized what Trump represented the day he descended the escalator in Trump Tower, and announced for 2016. I think anyone with a good understanding of demagogues, and the dangers demagogues pose in a democracy, probably reacted in a similar fashion. Those alarm bells sounding, esp. for folks with a good understanding of history, had nothing to do with personal shadows.

After all:


I mean, really, these concerns are not born of overly active imaginations divorced from reality….


Conservative minds understood this well, not just liberals or “leftists”:


And the summary below is just one hour from the other night. This is detached from reality. I don’t have to fail to recognize my own shadow to see that a man who is completely detached from the real world, and is so much wrapped up in himself, that this is the result, needs to be kept far from the Oval Office.

This is not a would-be president that is rooted in the real world. He needs to leave the stage:

“For most of the hour-long session, the former president barely mentioned President Biden. Instead, he spent his time denying the results of the “rigged” 2020 election; railing against “stupid people” who refuse to acknowledge his victory; promising to pardon “many” of those convicted of committing crimes on Jan. 6, 2021; calling the Capitol Police officer who shot a rioter while protecting members of Congress a “thug”; claiming that Mike Pence was not in any danger from the rioters and had the power as vice president to overturn the election results; defending his “perfect” phone call asking Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, to “find 11,780 votes”; defending his Truth Social post calling for “termination” of the Constitution; justifying his own mishandling of classified information while claiming that Biden stored classified documents in D.C.’s Chinatown, “where they don’t even speak English”; rehashing and justifying his “Access Hollywood” comments; and calling CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins a “nasty person.”(From a Wash. Post opinion piece: https://wapo.st/42M6JBt)

I assume you do not recognize any of this. You have no choice but to see the fault in critics of Trump, perhaps because you have no knowledge of demagogues, and likely due in part to a lack of knowledge or appreciation of history. You make a mistake trying to find poorly supported reasoning behind concerns about Trump. You simply are unable to understand those concerns, so you find any way you can to dismiss them. Educating yourself in history would be far more appropriate.

Don’t mean to spam you, or the forum, with a bunch of links, but I’m providing you with the opportunity to educate yourself beyond just extreme anger at anyone “obsessed” with Trump. Dismissing these anti-Trump concerns will not work. People like me, and there are millions of people like me, have genuine concerns rooted in reality.
 
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I just want trump treated fairly instead of treated special.

Like if I rob and steal from lots of people I probably spend some time in jail.
If I steal classified documents from the government and am unwilling to return them I probably spend time in jail.
If im on a phone call committing extortion I probably spend some time in jail.
If i sexually assault someone I probably spend some time in jail.
If I commit tax evasion on a large scale i probably spend some time in jail.
If i have a bunch of brainwashed followers who I know will listen to me and follow my orders and I get them to attack the Capital of the USA and people end up dead then I probably spend some time in jail.
If I was sending fake electors to certify votes and if I was calling officials to find just enough votes to get me electoral wins then I might spend time in jail.

Trump is rich and powerful so he avoids jail when he does things that would get me put in jail. He gets treated unfairly in that way. I want him treated fairly. Put him in jail. Same goes for the rest of the rich and powerful. But poor victimized trump continues to avoid any time in the slammer. If me wanting him to face consequences for his crimes makes me authoritarian and a war monger then so be it.

Instead of being jailed for all his many crimes he remains free. Instead of being silenced he is louder than ever. Instead of losing supporters and power each time he commits a crime his supporters seem to love him even more and he gains more power. To me, that isn't fair or right.
Agree to disagree I guess.
 
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Yeah sounds suspiciously like jazzyfresh, doesn't it? Same word choice and inexplicably going hard on the "Dems want war" ******** when it wasn't even remotely part of this conversation. Interesting.
I have had conversations here before you know. I’ve tried again to bring up topics with supporting facts from reputable sources on almost all of my original posts. Some of the topics I’ve tried to discuss are the train derailment, rail strike, nordstream explosion, anti-war rally, and so on. I’m almost every case I was personally attacked for my opinions immediately. There was never any nuanced discussions about the issues themselves and the discussions always end up on one topic, Trump… I realize this is the topic of this specific thread, but it’s basically the only topic discussed here politically. If you don’t obsessively hate trump and spend all your day hating him there is nothing else to discuss here. I’m sure there will be plenty of trump to discuss here for a while so you all should feel pretty safe in that topic unfortunately.
 
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