Al-O-Meter
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I do have to admire the masters of spin for this narrative.
Joe Biden made a decision that killed 12 American soldiers, then lied on national TV to say no one died on his watch. Then Kamala, wanting to build some creditability, proudly proclaimed herself to be the last person in the room when that American-soldier-killing decision was made. Since then, the gold star families have heard nothing from either Biden or Kamala, other than Biden's public statements that their kids who died serving our country didn't exist. Trump said they existed and they mattered, and he would be honored to raise awareness of their sacrifice by laying a wreath on their graves. The families all accepted his offer.
Did it raise awareness for human beings who lost their lives? Nope. It is about a regulation and staff and photography equipment. That is an impressive spin on what has been some awful behavior from Biden/Harris.
TheStormofWar
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Not as much as you might think. His casual pissing on the military is quite well known at this point, though it makes for easy ad fodder.
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It might sting more than in years past though. Now that there is a more viable option out there who is actually carrying some momentum, more people will take note of his erratic and unhinged behavior.
Can we get a different adjective then unhinged? Trumpian, maybe? Trumpish?
And with his recent slight of the Medal of Honor he's pissing off a lot of people who unlike Trump respect military service.
TheStormofWar
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Eh, Trumpian might meme him, which plays into his hands. Synonyms for unhinged include deranged, demented, unbalanced, out of one's mind, crazed, mad, insane, inane, lunatic, manic, maniac, berserk, disturbed, distracted, confused, certifiable, sectionable, crazy, mental, bonkers, bats, loopy, bananas, touched, out to lunch, off one's head, off one's rocker, potty, batty, steak 'n eggs (going by GD experiences), and bat****. Take your pick.
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It’s spin to you, perhaps. But not all veterans feel the same as you do. What’s spin to you is a heartfelt truth to some veterans.
I’m a combat veteran. Here’s why Trump’s Arlington stunt was so insulting.
His disregard for military tradition and his disdain for military service members is well documented
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Trump so often emphasizes how dire situations in the world would have not happened if only he had been elected. In reality, Donald Trump was a chump in the hands of foreign leaders. A chump.
newrepublic.com
“In At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, Lt. Gen.H.R. McMaster detailed the inner workings of the Trump administration between February 2017 to April 2018. McMaster has given new insight into just how easy it was for foreign leaders to outwit Trump, who has been desperate to paint himself as a strongman on the international stage.
According to The New York Times, McMaster wrote that he once tried to prepare Trump for a trip to China in November 2017, the “most consequential” stop on the former president’s tour through Asia. McMaster recalled attempting to explain to Trump that Chinese President Xi Jinping would attempt to get Trump to say things that were good for China, but not in the best interest of the U.S. and its allies. McMaster warned Trump to steel himself, and the former president seemed to understand.
When it came time to meet with Xi, however, everything came apart. Trump ended up mindlessly agreeing with Xi that South Korea’s military exercises were “provocative” and a “waste of time.” Trump also suggested that China might have a legitimate claim to the Senkaku Islands, which have been controlled by Japan since 1895.
Dismayed, McMaster wrote a note to Trump’s chief of staff, General John Kelly, bluntly stating that Xi “ate our lunch.””
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But wait, Putin respected Trump, would never have invaded Ukraine if Trump were in the Oval Office. Right? Well, I don’t know, but it’s clear Putin thought of Trump as a child:
“McMaster also wrote that he’d once been asked by Trump to deliver a fawning message to Russian President Vladimir Putin, scrawled across a New York Postarticle that reported Putin had slammed the U.S. political system but found Trump notably compliant. “I have no disappointment at all,” Putin reportedly said about Trump.
McMaster refused to pass on the note, later telling a furious Trump that it would “reinforce the narrative that you are somehow in the Kremlin’s pocket.”
McMaster wrote that Putin, “a ruthless former KGB operator, played to Trump’s ego and insecurities with flattery,” attempting to create a rift between Trump and those on his staff who sought a tougher stance against Russia. McMaster warned the former president that Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend,” but Trump didn’t take the straight talk very well”.
Ex-Adviser Slams Trump for Getting Pushed Around by Foreign Leader
H.R. McMaster said that Chinese leader Xi Jinping handily manipulated Donald Trump.
newrepublic.com
“In At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, Lt. Gen.H.R. McMaster detailed the inner workings of the Trump administration between February 2017 to April 2018. McMaster has given new insight into just how easy it was for foreign leaders to outwit Trump, who has been desperate to paint himself as a strongman on the international stage.
According to The New York Times, McMaster wrote that he once tried to prepare Trump for a trip to China in November 2017, the “most consequential” stop on the former president’s tour through Asia. McMaster recalled attempting to explain to Trump that Chinese President Xi Jinping would attempt to get Trump to say things that were good for China, but not in the best interest of the U.S. and its allies. McMaster warned Trump to steel himself, and the former president seemed to understand.
When it came time to meet with Xi, however, everything came apart. Trump ended up mindlessly agreeing with Xi that South Korea’s military exercises were “provocative” and a “waste of time.” Trump also suggested that China might have a legitimate claim to the Senkaku Islands, which have been controlled by Japan since 1895.
Dismayed, McMaster wrote a note to Trump’s chief of staff, General John Kelly, bluntly stating that Xi “ate our lunch.””
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But wait, Putin respected Trump, would never have invaded Ukraine if Trump were in the Oval Office. Right? Well, I don’t know, but it’s clear Putin thought of Trump as a child:
“McMaster also wrote that he’d once been asked by Trump to deliver a fawning message to Russian President Vladimir Putin, scrawled across a New York Postarticle that reported Putin had slammed the U.S. political system but found Trump notably compliant. “I have no disappointment at all,” Putin reportedly said about Trump.
McMaster refused to pass on the note, later telling a furious Trump that it would “reinforce the narrative that you are somehow in the Kremlin’s pocket.”
McMaster wrote that Putin, “a ruthless former KGB operator, played to Trump’s ego and insecurities with flattery,” attempting to create a rift between Trump and those on his staff who sought a tougher stance against Russia. McMaster warned the former president that Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend,” but Trump didn’t take the straight talk very well”.
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Al-O-Meter
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American soldiers died. They were acting in service to our country and it cost them their lives. These 12 soldiers, Americans, human beings with families are dead now. Doesn't that matter?It’s spin to you, perhaps. But not all veterans feel the same as you do. What’s spin to you is a heartfelt truth to some veterans.
I’m a combat veteran. Here’s why Trump’s Arlington stunt was so insulting.
His disregard for military tradition and his disdain for military service members is well documented
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Not a single person should be surprised by any of this. But the right will call it all lies and misinformation because, very unfortunately, that tactic works the very best with their base. God, people are so gullible and just want to believe any **** that reinforces their own world view.Trump so often emphasizes how dire situations in the world would have not happened if only he had been elected. In reality, Donald Trump was a chump in the hands of foreign leaders. A chump.
Ex-Adviser Slams Trump for Getting Pushed Around by Foreign Leader
H.R. McMaster said that Chinese leader Xi Jinping handily manipulated Donald Trump.
“In At War with Ourselves: My Tour of Duty in the Trump White House, Lt. Gen.H.R. McMaster detailed the inner workings of the Trump administration between February 2017 to April 2018. McMaster has given new insight into just how easy it was for foreign leaders to outwit Trump, who has been desperate to paint himself as a strongman on the international stage.
According to The New York Times, McMaster wrote that he once tried to prepare Trump for a trip to China in November 2017, the “most consequential” stop on the former president’s tour through Asia. McMaster recalled attempting to explain to Trump that Chinese President Xi Jinping would attempt to get Trump to say things that were good for China, but not in the best interest of the U.S. and its allies. McMaster warned Trump to steel himself, and the former president seemed to understand.
When it came time to meet with Xi, however, everything came apart. Trump ended up mindlessly agreeing with Xi that South Korea’s military exercises were “provocative” and a “waste of time.” Trump also suggested that China might have a legitimate claim to the Senkaku Islands, which have been controlled by Japan since 1895.
Dismayed, McMaster wrote a note to Trump’s chief of staff, General John Kelly, bluntly stating that Xi “ate our lunch.””
————————————————————————————————————————
But wait, Putin respected Trump, would never have invaded Ukraine if Trump were in the Oval Office. Right? Well, I don’t know, but it’s clear Putin thought of Trump as a child:
“McMaster also wrote that he’d once been asked by Trump to deliver a fawning message to Russian President Vladimir Putin, scrawled across a New York Postarticle that reported Putin had slammed the U.S. political system but found Trump notably compliant. “I have no disappointment at all,” Putin reportedly said about Trump.
McMaster refused to pass on the note, later telling a furious Trump that it would “reinforce the narrative that you are somehow in the Kremlin’s pocket.”
McMaster wrote that Putin, “a ruthless former KGB operator, played to Trump’s ego and insecurities with flattery,” attempting to create a rift between Trump and those on his staff who sought a tougher stance against Russia. McMaster warned the former president that Putin “was not and would never be Trump’s friend,” but Trump didn’t take the straight talk very well”.