Evolution discussion

[Darkwing Duck]

Well, dinosaur skin and feather fossils have been found and analyzed for pigments, and rendering has been done on them. I'd provide a link, but you wouldn't care. You're too busy taking a book that has a woman turned to salt as fact.

 

[MVP]

The Bible book of Genesis speaks of seven men who lived more than 900 years, all of them being born prior to the Flood of Noah’s day. They were Adam, Seth, Enosh, Kenan, Jared, Methuselah, and Noah. (Genesis 5:5-27; 9:29) Many of these men may be unfamiliar to most people, but all of them were among the first ten generations in human history. Methuselah is well-known for having lived the longest—a record 969 years! The Bible mentions at least another 25 individuals who also reached ages beyond what is common today. Some of them lived 300, 400, even 700 or more years. (Genesis 5:28-31; 11:10-25) The outstanding longevity of those men living prior to the Flood proves that the human body has a remarkable potential for life.

Awaiting your rebuttal!

Bible says God created birds before sea creatures and land before light and that God made women from the rib.
Book of Mormom says Jews sailed to America's 600 years BC
Quran says Allah holds birds in the sky and that men were molded from clay
S.Meyer book Twilight speaks of numerous vampires who live among us as immortals and that there is bunch of Quileute natives around Forks who can shift their shape into giant wolfs.
Pittacus Lore in his book I Am Number Four tells us about aliens from Mogadore on Earth. The Mogadorian soldiers, it is revealed, can shapeshift into monstrous giants.
Cassandra Clare in her book City of Glasses tells us that there is not only vampires and werewolfs but as well well shadowhunters, demons, warlocks and other supernatural creatures around us.

If you believe what any of these fictional novels say then your life must be pretty scary. I am really sorry for you.

 

[carolinajazz]

Well, dinosaur skin and feather fossils have been found and analyzed for pigments, and rendering has been done on them. I'd provide a link, but you wouldn't care. You're too busy taking a book that has a woman turned to salt as fact.

...don't need the link, I believe you! But that doesn't prove by any stretch of the imagination that Birds came from Reptiles! Just proves they were made up of a variety of colors, all with in there "kinds!" And the Heat's "bird man" has turned himself into a pillar of tattoo's!.....so what's not to believe about turning into a pillar of salt!

 

[MVP]

.. But that doesn't prove by any stretch of the imagination that Birds came from Reptiles!

So fossils of dinosaurs with feathers and with numerous similar anatomical features like birds do not prove that birds evolved from dinosaurs but some ancient book telling you that some people lived 900 years is more trustworthy to you? I think you just pick whatever you want to believe and do not give it a fair and objective assessment.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Scientism is wonderful like that. They zero in on little things and extrapolate to huge proportions.

Because the desert is flat the whole earth must be.

Because there is local warming that must mean the whole damn world is warming.

Because there are different colored moths then we all must have come from a fish.

You can't see how ridiculous you all are.

The "ladder" slip was amusing.

In all honesty, and not be to mean, but I cannot help but conclude Pearl that you don't know shiite about science or how it works.

Perhaps you ought to demonstrate a bit more humility in waxing long and loud about something you evidently don't have a clue about.

 

[carolinajazz]

So fossils of dinosaurs with feathers and with numerous similar anatomical features like birds do not prove that birds evolved from dinosaurs but some ancient book telling you that some people lived 900 years is more trustworthy to you? I think you just pick whatever you want to believe and do not give it a fair and objective assessment.

Feathers are unique to birds. Supposedly, reptilian scales just happened to become these amazing structures. Out from the shaft of a feather are rows of barbs. Each barb has many barbules, and each barbule has hundreds of barbicels and hooklets. After a microscopic examination of one pigeon feather, it was revealed that it had “several hundred thousand barbules and millions of barbicels and hooklets.”

These hooks hold all the parts of a feather together to make flat surfaces or vanes. Nothing excels the feather as an airfoil, and few substances equal it as an insulator. A bird the size of a swan has some 25,000 feathers.

If the barbs of these feathers become separated, they are combed with the beak. The beak applies pressure as the barbs pass through it, and the hooks on the barbules link together like the teeth of a zipper. Most birds have an oil gland at the base of the tail from which they take oil to condition each feather. Some birds have no oil gland but instead have special feathers that fray at their tips to produce a fine talclike dust for conditioning their feathers. And feathers usually are renewed by molting once a year.

Knowing all of this about the feather, consider this rather astonishing effort to explain its development: “How did this structural marvel evolve? It takes no great stretch of imagination to envisage a feather as a modified scale, basically like that of a reptile—a longish scale loosely attached, whose outer edges frayed and spread out until it evolved into the highly complex structure that it is today.”

But do you think such an explanation is truly scientific? Or does it read more like science fiction?

 

[MVP]

Feathers are unique to birds.

No, they are not. Dinosaurs like microraptors had feathers as well and it is well documented and proven.

Knowing all of this about the feather, consider this rather astonishing effort to explain its development: “How did this structural marvel evolve? It takes no great stretch of imagination to envisage a feather as a modified scale, basically like that of a reptile—a longish scale loosely attached, whose outer edges frayed and spread out until it evolved into the highly complex structure that it is today.”

You can apply same argument to any other part of the body of any other creature. PW was marveling at femur and how complex it is, I could say the same about eye, ear, *****, uterus, kidney - you name it. Every single organ is amazingly complex. That's what billions of years of evolution do.

 

[One Brow]

What defines the boundary of a “kind”? The Bible does not say. However, it does state that living creatures “swarmed forth according to their kinds.” (Genesis 1:21) This statement implies that there is a limit to the amount of variation that can occur within a “kind.”

Can you provide evidence, or even a quote, that a mushroom and a cat are of a different kind? Maybe birds and pear trees are of the same kind. So, all of evolution may have happened just as in MET, and the "kind" barrier was not broken. Perhaps there are only three kinds on all of the earth, and two are unicellular. Common sense in not an answer, because you don't think God's ways are man's ways.

 

[One Brow]

...so your saying that the idea that some dinosaurs had color and others did not.....can be determined by well-researched, well-tested "theories"....even though all we have are bones and NOT skin samples from eons of elapsed time? Why not just say "I'm guessing" this may have been the case!

Where we have no evidence for dinosaur skin color, we have no theories on dinosaur skin color. Artist's renditions are not theories.

 

[One Brow]

...don't need the link, I believe you! But that doesn't prove by any stretch of the imagination that Birds came from Reptiles!

How do you know that birds and reptiles are different kinds?

 

[One Brow]

But do you think such an explanation is truly scientific? Or does it read more like science fiction?

Something that simplistic reads like neither.

Feather evolution has been extensively studied, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feather#Evolution

 

[carolinajazz]

Can you provide evidence, or even a quote, that a mushroom and a cat are of a different kind? Maybe birds and pear trees are of the same kind. So, all of evolution may have happened just as in MET, and the "kind" barrier was not broken. Perhaps there are only three kinds on all of the earth, and two are unicellular.

....brow, have you been drinking Wild Turkey 101??? Your comparisons and illustrations as noted above are pathetically flawed and way out of touch with reality as well as scientific facts! How many years of college did it take them to brainwash you into such foolishness??? Had to be more than 1!