Favors next season?

[TheStormofWar]

If we can get the #3 or #4 seed, our draft pick won't be all that high (low 20's). I can definitely see a scenario where we look to trade Burks and trade down or out in order to comfortably re-sign Exum and Favors. Something like our pick #22 and Burks to Atlanta for #30 (they own Houston's pick).

I'm all for keeping Favors if we can sign him to a declining contract. Some kind of $13, $12, $11 type deal. If Ingles and Favors are on declining deals that end when Mitchell is due his first major contract, then our FO would have done well.

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I think Favors will probably look for a 15m per deal, but otherwise, I can agree with that. Jazz need him on this roster badly. If he wants to work on his 3 ball, then it solves any problems with him and Gobert playing together.

 

[MDAV28]

I think Favors will probably look for a 15m per deal, but otherwise, I can agree with that. Jazz need him on this roster badly. If he wants to work on his 3 ball, then it solves any problems with him and Gobert playing together.

Who is giving him 15m per?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I love Favs but to stay he likely gets less than market. Also I don’t think he’s ever a three point shooter. He’s worked on it... not sure it ever comes around.

I think he could stay if a scenario arise where he only gets offered the MLE. I could see Dallas and Phoenix going higher than that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Who is giving him 15m per?

Maybe Phoenix or Dallas... he wouldn’t be option #1... but the sentiment is correct. He could likely get much less than we think.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If we can get the #3 or #4 seed, our draft pick won't be all that high (low 20's). I can definitely see a scenario where we look to trade Burks and trade down or out in order to comfortably re-sign Exum and Favors. Something like our pick #22 and Burks to Atlanta for #30 (they own Houston's pick).

I'm all for keeping Favors if we can sign him to a declining contract. Some kind of $13, $12, $11 type deal. If Ingles and Favors are on declining deals that end when Mitchell is due his first major contract, then our FO would have done well.

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We don’t need to move AB to retain them both comfortably.

 

[MDAV28]

Maybe Phoenix or Dallas... he wouldn’t be option #1... but the sentiment is correct. He could likely get much less than we think.

I fully believe Phoenix is going to draft Ayton. I concede Dallas because they always are aggressive on the market. 15m seems high. I think we can resign Exum and Favors for ~20m which still gives us cap flexibility moving forward.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I love Favs but to stay he likely gets less than market. Also I don’t think he’s ever a three point shooter. He’s worked on it... not sure it ever comes around.

I think he could stay if a scenario arise where he only gets offered the MLE. I could see Dallas and Phoenix going higher than that.

How much more? And if it’s close to the Jazz offer, why wouldn’t they match? Why would he leave if they want him back?

I think guys have it in their head that a Gobert/Favors starting frontcourt doesn’t work. . . except that it does.

Anytime they’ve both been healthy, they dominate. They win. It was a little rough while Rubio was getting acclimated, but they’re rolling now. Don’t change it unless you have too.

 

[TheStormofWar]

We don’t need to move AB to retain them both comfortably.

Agreed. Moving AB would be nice, but not really necessary for the Jazz to keep both X and Favs without breaking the cap. That said, if something ideal comes along, DL will move on it.

 

[Coach Ellis]

We don’t need to move AB to retain them both comfortably.

Also, DL has proven hat he can hit big in the mid 20’s. Why sacrifice that option just to dump Burks? They’ll either trade him for a guy they want who costs more (Carroll, Faried, Porter, etc.) or buy him out after the deadline.

 

[TheStormofWar]

Also I don’t think he’s ever a three point shooter. He’s worked on it... not sure it ever comes around.

Just like Gobert will only be a gangly Euro-center with no real talent or physicality.
Just like Rubio will never be a shooter.
Just like Ingles will only ever be a fringe 3D player, if that.
Just like Mitchell will only ever be a back-up SG and role player (saw this comparison).
Just like Royce will never be anything in this league.

No disrespect is intended, but players transform themselves on this team if they work on it. Favs has the work ethic. Such a change really isn't even unprecedented for the Jazz. In his early years, Malone was basically a post up player. As his career went on, he developed quite a lethal mid-range jimmy that was his bread and butter. If Favs wants to be a long range 4, then why the hell not?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Just like Gobert will only be a gangly Euro-center with no real talent or physicality.
Just like Rubio will never be a shooter.
Just like Ingles will only ever be a fringe 3D player, if that.
Just like Mitchell will only ever be a back-up SG and role player (saw this comparison).
Just like Royce will never be anything in this league.

No disrespect is intended, but players transform themselves on this team if they work on it. Favs has the work ethic. Such a change really isn't even unprecedented for the Jazz. In his early years, Malone was basically a post up player. As his career went on, he developed quite a lethal mid-range jimmy that was his bread and butter. If Favs wants to be a long range 4, then why the hell not?

I get that but we act like he’s just now started working on it. It has looked more natural but it doesn’t go in. I think he’s worked on it and I’m not sure he ever gets it really consistently. He’s been in the program longer than anyone and still doesn’t have it.

His elbow jumper and mid floater has been great this year. I haven’t looked at the numbers just see it falling a lot when I watch.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

How much more? And if it’s close to the Jazz offer, why wouldn’t they match? Why would he leave if they want him back?

I think guys have it in their head that a Gobert/Favors starting frontcourt doesn’t work. . . except that it does.

Anytime they’ve both been healthy, they dominate. They win. It was a little rough while Rubio was getting acclimated, but they’re rolling now. Don’t change it unless you have too.

Dallas Phoenix or Atlanta could offer more. He likely isn’t option 1 for any of those teams. If they come calling I could see 4/60ish.

I would go 4/48ish if it declines or another possibility is the deal Niko got 2/25... although if we did that I think he’d get a Player Option. We could go maybe 2/30 and get second year team option.