Following All the Potential Draftees Ever ***Ultimate Official Thread****

[karl malone]

I just want to know if there is a "can't miss", "surefire #1 pick, "next LBJ", "phenom" caliber prospect on the horizon. And if so, who he is.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I just want to know if there is a "can't miss", "surefire #1 pick, "next LBJ", "phenom" caliber prospect on the horizon. And if so, who he is.

There isn't, imo. But I LOVE Josh Jackson (6'7 SG). Not ranked #1 but should be.

 

[Game6Conley]

I just want to know if there is a "can't miss", "surefire #1 pick, "next LBJ", "phenom" caliber prospect on the horizon. And if so, who he is.

That's what this list is for! Check out #1, His video's have almost 1,000,000 views. He's of Wilt Chamberlain dimensions (Like Gobert) already, Infact his wingspan is already longer; 7'10". He can shoot 20'ers, he runs like the wind, shows nice timing/reflexes. It's early but he's got plenty of staying power.

 

[Game6Conley]

Really surprised you have Ayton that high.

I've seen Ayton have off games, or where another big matches him. I've seen him kind of fade in and out of a game - maybe he's just a 4 inch taller version of Bam Adebayo(#44 on the list), I doubt it though... I've also watched Bagley(#3) get held to 13 points in that elimination game loss in the peach jam vs the Georgia Stars.

If Ayton is a true center, I've certainly got him overrated.. no doubt. I think he can play PF though, and when I start to look at the list of starting PF's, I think to myself, "Ayton has the advantage here" (especially on the boards). Also Ayton with some proper strength and conditioning figures to be quite the specimen, I'd venture to say he will be jacked like Anthony Davis is now at 22, when he's 21. He's also probably a legitimate inch or 2 taller than Davis.

 

[Hotdog]

There isn't, imo. But I LOVE Josh Jackson (6'7 SG). Not ranked #1 but should be.

His first name ain't baby, it's Josh, and it's Jackson if you are nasty

 

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Condensing them doesn't make much sense, there's chronology involved. Coupled with the fact that the Jazz have more than enough draft picks(near 20) to field a whole new team in just the next 5 years, it'd be a bit much..


I just posted early mocks in 2016 and 2017 today, soon ill drop top-10, 15 or 20 lists in '18, '19 and '20.

Then perhaps, I'll post the 'ultimate' classless top-100 rankings which could end up a decent bump down the road...


Infact this thread seems like a decent landing spot for them.

Vast majority of secon round picks never make NBA roster. Many first round picks bust. I am not sure you are aware of this.

 

[Game6Conley]

The list sorts out a bit better than I expected, (By class and position), 101 players currently. 8 from 2020, 13 from 2019, 22 from 2018, 33 from 2017 and 26 from 2016.

This number adds up to over 101 because of multi-positions but it's 20 PG's, 27 SG's, 29 SF's, 28 PF's and 17 C's


I think I'd make some minor changes on how the Center's are ranked, right now its Azubuike 4th and Zimmerman 5th, I'd switch that. would also knock Ivica Zubac down a few spots.

There's a few things in the rankings that I'll admit stand out as kind of a stretch at this point;

- Michael Porter over Josh Jackson?
- Billy Preston over Ben Simmons?
- Jonathan Isaac/Wenyen Gabriel in the mid-teens??
- Are younger players like Jadeon Ledee, Silvio De Sousa, Scottie Lewis and E.J. Montgomery deserving of such lofty rankings?
- Frank Ntilikina, Isaiah Hartenstein, Rodions Kurucs deserving of such lofty rankings?
- Seems to be a drop off in talent around the mid 70's
- I suspect many of the 2019 players in the second half of the list are infact underrated, sans Isaiah Mucius(#95) who might be the first player on the list I'd replace if need be.
- Kris Dunn over Troy Brown is probably not right, i'd switch that up.
- Underrated Centers? Zach Brown, Nick Richards
- Henry Ellenson over Bam?
- Is Trae Young underrated?
- Who am I missing??? I'm sure there's still a few obvious ones I've overlooked.

 

[Game6Conley]

A player I think might be severely underrated on this list is 6'5" Zion Williamson #64. I've seen early James Harden comparisons, he's certainly damn athletic. Video's 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZzMvolFTR4 -2019 for this threads purposes.

 

[Hotdog]

Vast majority of second round picks never make a NBA roster. Many first round picks bust. I am not sure you are aware of this.

Where's your accent?

 

[Game6Conley]

Vast majority of secon round picks never make NBA roster. Many first round picks bust. I am not sure you are aware of this.

yeah but this covers 5 years or 150 first round picks (some could still be draft eligible in 2023).. nomsaying? and this just goes to 101 (so far). 90 1st rd picks in the next 3 years and there's 80 players listed here.

this is a feeble attempt at putting them in order.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

A player I think might be severely underrated on this list is 6'5" Zion Williamson #64. I've seen early James Harden comparisons, he's certainly damn athletic. Video's 2 days old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZzMvolFTR4 -2019 for this threads purposes.

It's pretty damn obvious that Zion belongs in Utah. We shouldn't even have to use a draft pick on this guy. They should just automatically give him to us.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

To have that much time on my hands...must be nice.

I admire people who make the time to do the things they are most passionate about. I had a hobby that some (including my ex who cared about money more than anything) thought was a waste of time, and now that she's married to my gross ex neighbor my fun little hobby has suddenly started paying me six figures a year. Boom baby!

 

[Hotdog]

Speed Bump

 

[Game6Conley]

Elijah Weaver posted earlier in the 2019 thread is certainly good enough to be high on this list. I'd put him 1 spot after #37 Hamidou Diallo.

 

[Game6Conley]

New list with tiers and fancy colors. explanation/legend below

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2016 draft eligible players have been excluded, International players born in 1998 or later and HS class of 2016, 2017 2018 and 2019 are included.

(Year next to the name is 1st year of draft eligibility)

Top tier - probable top-5 picks, (primed to make a case for #1)
2nd tier - probable lottery picks
3rd tier -probable top-20 picks
4th and 5th tiers - somewhere between the 3rd tier and final teir
final tier - "I like their chances to make the first round" (there will be 120 1st rd picks in the 4 drafts covered and the list goes to 123...)

1- Marvin Bagley -SF/PF -2019
2- Chol Marial - C - 2020
3- Harry Giles - PF - 2017
4- De'Aaron Fox - PG - 2017
5- Josh Jackson - SG/SF - 2017
6- Wendell Carter - PF - 2018
7- Michael Porter - SF -2018
8- Trevon Duval - PG - 2018
9- DeAndre Ayton - PF/C - 2018
10- Mohammad Bamba - PF/C - 2018
11- Silvio De Sousa - PF/SF- 2019
12- Thon Maker - PF - 2017
13- Markelle Fultz - PG/SG - 2017 --- Washington
14- Nicholas Richards - C - 2018
15- Jonathan Isaac - SF - 2017 --- Florida St.
16- Jared Vanderbilt - SF - 2018
17- Billy Preston - PF - 2018
18- Bol Bol - C - 2019
19- Malik Monk - SG - 2017
20- Wenyen Gabriel - SF - 2017 --- Kentucky
21- Cole Anthony - PG - 2020
22- Frank Ntilikina - PG - 2017 --- Overseas/Belgium
23- Dennis Smith - PG - 2017 --- North Carolina St.
24- Frank Jackson - PG/SG -2017 --- Duke
25- Rodions Kurucs - SF - 2017 --- Overseas/Latvia
26- Scottie Lewis - SG - 2020
27- Rawle Alkins - SG - 2017
28- Jayson Tatum - SF - 2017 --- Duke
29 - Isaiah Hartenstein - 2017 --- Overseas/Germany
30- E.J. Montgomery - SF - 2019
31- Gary Trent - SG - 2018
32- Miles Bridges - SF/SG - 2017 --- Michigan St.
33- Jarrett Allen - PF - 2017
34- Luka Doncic - SG - 2018 --- Overseas/Slovenia
35- Omer Yertsuven - PF - 2017 --- Overseas/Turkey
36- Bam Adebayo - PF - 2017
37- Terrance Furgeson - SG - 2017 --- Alabama
38- Hamidou Diallo - SG - 2018
39- Troy Brown - PG/SG - 2018
40- Balsa Koprivica - PF/C - 2020
41- John Petty - SF - 2018
42- Kris Wilkes SF - 2018
43- Ikey Obiagu - C - 2018
44- Lonzo Ball - PG - 2017 --- UCLA
45- Javonte Smart - PG - 2019
46- Rowan Barrett Jr. - SF - 2020
47- Jordan Brown - PF - 2019
48- Otom Jankovic - SG - 2019 --- Overseas/Croatia
49- Marques Bolden - PF - 2017
50- Dewan Huell - PF 2017
51- Josh Langford - SG - 2017 --- Michigan St.
52- Robert Woodard - SG - 2019
53- Jadeon LeDee - PG/SF - 2019
54- Darius Garland - PG - 2019
55- Elijah Weaver PG - 2019
56- Sacha Killeya-Jones - PF - 2017 --- Kentucky
57- D.J. Harvey - SF - 2018
58- Udoka Azubuike - C - 2018
59- Isaac Humphries - C - 2017 --- Kentucky
60- Brandon McCoy C - 2018
61- Jared Jones - PF - 2020
62- Chandler Lawson - SF - 2020
63- Gerald Liddell - SF - 2019
64- Trendon Watford - SF - 2020
65- Pedro Nunes - PG - 2020 --- Overseas/Brazil
66- Immanuel Quickley - PG - 2019
67- Markus Howard - PG - 2018
68- Kevin Knox SF - 2018
69- Javin DeLaurier-Montgomery 6'8" PF/SF - 2017 --- Duke
70- Simi Sh*ttu SF - 2019
71- Austin Wiley PF - 2018 --- Auburn
72- Cameron Reddish - SG - 2019
73- Jahvon Quinerly - PG - 2019
74- Zach Brown - C - 2018
75- Jay Jay Chandler - PG - 2018
76- Zion Williamson - SG - 2019
77- Kobi Simmons - PG/SG - 2017
78- Justin Jackson - SF - 2017 --- UNLV
79- Isaiah Mobley - SF/PF - 2020
80- Cassius Stanley - SG - 2020
81- Tyger Campbell - PG - 2020
82- Jalen Smith PF - 2019
83- Naz Reid - PF - 2019
84- Jeremiah Tilmon - C/PF - 2018
85- Bryan Johnson-Penn - C/PF - 2019
86- Miles Norris PF - 2019
87- Wendell Moore - SF - 2020
88- Tyus Battle - SG/SF - 2017
89- Andrew Jones - SG/PG - 2017
90- Trae Young - PG - 2018
91- Lauri Markannen - PF - 2017 --- Arizona
92-Maurice Calloo - SF - 2019 --- Overseas/Canada
93- Makur Maker (Thon's cousin - not his brother Matur) - PF/C - 2020
94- Jaylen Hoard - SF - 2018 --- Overseas/France
95- Dzanan Musa - SG - 2018 --- Overseas/Bosnia & Herzegovina
96 -Jaylen Hands - PG - 2018 --- UCLA
97 - D.J. Burns - C/PF - 2020
98 - Deng Gak C - 2018
99- Nobal Days - PF - 2020
100- Kenneth Nwuba - C - 2019
101- Tariq Ingraham - C/PF 2020
102- Francis Okoro - C/PF - 2020
103- Paul Scruggs - PG/SG - 2018
104 - V.J. King - SF - 2017 --- Louisville
105 - Tadas Sedekerskis - SF - 2017 --- Overseas/Lithuania
106- T.J. Leaf PF - 2017
107- Khavon Moore - SF/SG - 2019
108- Michael Barber - SF - 2019
109- D.J. Williams-Weaver - SF -2019
110- P.J. Washington - PF - 2018
111- LaDarius Marshall - SF - 2019
112 - Onurlap Bitim - PG/SG - 2018 --- Overseas/Turkey
113- Miguel Gonzalez - SG/SF - 2018 - Overseas/Spain
114- Rui Hachimura - SF/PF - 2017 - Overseas/Japan
115- M.J. Walker - SG - 2018
116- Sandro Mamukelashvili SF - 2018 --- Overseas/Georgia
117- Rechon Black - PG - 2019
118- Jaylek Felton - SG/PG - 2018 --- North Carolina
119- Tyler Herro - PG/SG - 2019
120- Brandon Johns - SF - 2019
121- Giir Ring - SF - 2019
122- Connor Vanover - C - 2019
123- Derek Culver - PF - 2018


Honorable mention (in no particular order)

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Mustapha Heron - SF - 2017 --- Auburn
Kostja Mushidi - SG - 2017 --- Overseas/Germany
Robert Williams - PF - 2017 --- Texas A&M
Cassius Winston - PG - 2017 --- Michigan St.
James Banks PF/C- 2017 --- Texas
Gorjak Gak C - 2017
Abdul Ado C/PF - 2017
De'Ron Davis PF/C - 2017
Jethro Tsishumpa - C - 2017
Bruno Fernando C - 2017
Samuel Japhet-Mathias - C - 2017 --- Wake Forest
Kostas Antetokounmpo - SF - 2017
Borisa Simanic -SF - 2017 --- Overseas/Serbia
Lonnie Walker - SG - 2018
Xavier Tillman - PF - 2018
Jordan Tucker - SF - 2018
Brian Bowen - SF - 2018
Nickiel Alexander-Walker - SG 2018 --- Overseas/Canada
Jermaine Samuels - SF - 2018
Ty-Shon Alexander - CG - 2018
Daejon Davis - CG - 2018 --- Washington
Cody Riley - PF - 2018
Mitchell Robinson - C - 2018 --- Texas A&M
Dajour Dickens - C - 2018
Charles O'Bannon - SF - 2018
Matt Coleman - PG - 2018
Daniel Mading PF - 2018
Mayan Kiir - PF - 2018
Will Dillard - SG - 2019
Jamie Lewis - CG - 2019
Kamaka Hepa - PF/SF - 2019
Sekou Doumbouya - SF - 2019 --- Overseas/France
Louis King - SF - 2019
Atiba Taylor - PG - 2019
Mamadou Doucore - PF - 2019
Shareef O'Neal - PF - 2019
Quanze Wang - PF - 2019
Ousmane Ndim - C - 2019
Manny Umoffia - C - 2019
Carte'are Gordon - C/PF - 2019
Marko Pecarski PF/C - 2019 --- Overseas/Serbia
Filip Petrusev - C - 2019 --- Overseas/Serbia
LaMelo Ball - CG - 2020 --- UCLA
Robert Bobroczkyi - C - 2020 ---Overseas/Romania

 

[Game6Conley]

Brian 'Tugs' Bowen from Saginaw, Michigan should be about #62 on the list. SG/SF - 2018


He's slightly Klay Thompson-ish

 

[Keefe]

I admire people who make the time to do the things they are most passionate about. I had a hobby that some (including my ex who cared about money more than anything) thought was a waste of time, and now that she's married to my gross ex neighbor my fun little hobby has suddenly started paying me six figures a year. Boom baby!

You gonna tell us what this hobby is or leave us in the dark?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

You gonna tell us what this hobby is or leave us in the dark?

I'm a bank robber.