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spycam1 said:
I would love Randle. Wiggins and Parker are obviously my first choices, but Randle and Burke would finally give us some actual leadership on the team. And he's a pure 4, unlike Kanter and Favors who are both kinda tweeners FWIW.
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Randle & Favors would form one of the most athletic front court in the NBA. Not the most imposing, but very athletic. My dream lineup is still this:

Favors
Kanter
Randle
Hayward
Burke

Plenty of length. Plenty of scoring and shooting. There's slashing. Burke can run pick and roll with any of the big 3 all day long. There's enough 3pt shooting too with Burke, Hayward and Randle.
 
spycam1 said:
I would love Randle. Wiggins and Parker are obviously my first choices, but Randle and Burke would finally give us some actual leadership on the team. And he's a pure 4, unlike Kanter and Favors who are both kinda tweeners FWIW.
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This is a very good post.

Hotttnickkk said:
Randle & Favors would form one of the most athletic front court in the NBA. Not the most imposing, but very athletic. My dream lineup is still this:

Favors
Kanter
Randle
Hayward
Burke

Plenty of length. Plenty of scoring and shooting. There's slashing. Burke can run pick and roll with any of the big 3 all day long. There's enough 3pt shooting too with Burke, Hayward and Randle.
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This is good too, except Randle's athleticism is not elite.
 
spycam1 said:
Don't forget, Wiggins will be scoring a career high today on CBS at 2:30 PM MST

Be there.
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I will be watching..... make a game thread
 
I'm looking at today's schedule and there's something's not right with the ranking... Wisconsin is #4, Wichita St #8 and KU is #16???


WTF????
 
Teams like UK and KU are loaded with talent but very young talent. They're expected to lose games early, drop in the rankings, but by February/March be playing well enough together to be the best teams in the country.

Obviously the rankings have more to do with W/L records and s.o.s. than predicting the finish.
 
Nice spin move by Embiid... Seems to me he's already right up there with Favors in terms of his offensive ability/repertoire/instinct/potential..
 
Hotttnickkk said:
What do you think of the Embiid & Favors pairing in the front court? With all the stretch 4's out there in the league today (and Favors inability to guard them) would that combination work?
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I think it'd be killer. Favors can guard stretch 4's, just gotta be motivated to do so. I think Favors can guard just about anyone. I'm sure Embiid can guard them too. Those two defensively would be sick. Might need one of them to put on more size to guard those brutes on the block however. Or Kanter can maybe do this, idk.

Would be dynamite having both those dudes on defense
 
LazyD said:
I think it'd be killer. Favors can guard stretch 4's, just gotta be motivated to do so. I think Favors can guard just about anyone. I'm sure Embiid can guard them too. Those two defensively would be sick. Might need one of them to put on more size to guard those brutes on the block however. Or Kanter can maybe do this, idk.

Would be dynamite having both those dudes on defense
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Would definitely need some perimeter shooting, obvi. On a positive note, you needn't be overly worried about perimeter defense.. just stay right up on your man and funnel them into Favors and Embiid.
 
PKM said:
Would definitely need some perimeter shooting, obvi. On a positive note, you needn't be overly worried about perimeter defense.. just stay right up on your man and funnel them into Favors and Embiid.
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Word

This lineup offensively is a different story. Embiid looks like he has killer potential being a playmaker on the block doe
 
PKM said:
Would definitely need some perimeter shooting, obvi. On a positive note, you needn't be overly worried about perimeter defense.. just stay right up on your man and funnel them into Favors and Embiid.
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Pretty sure we can net a 3pt specialist out of the GSW pick anyway.

Embiid/Kanter
Favors
Hayward
Harris/Burks
Burke

That would definitely fit an Indiana-contender type team built on defense and inside scoring.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Pretty sure we can net a 3pt specialist out of the GSW pick anyway.

Embiid/Kanter
Favors
Hayward
Harris/Burks
Burke

That would definitely fit an Indiana-contender type team built on defense and inside scoring.
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The offense would be kinda ****ed up I think with both Embiid and Favors. Plus, I think the Jazz would still need some stronger perimeter players to match up with stronger wings who would destroy Hayward, Burks, Harris, etc. Would have some real potential fo sho tho, and could be a great team
 
So I did compare the performance of NBAdraft.net and draftexpress.com in 2013...

That's my result:

number of picks correct:
NBAdraft.net - 4
DX.com - 3
Bleacherreport - 1

number of predictions close by 2 places(e.g. predicted 3, picked 1 through 5)
NBAdraft.net - 12
DX.com - 12
Bleacherreport - 9

mean error per prediction(in draft slots)
NBAdraft.net: 6.5333(undrafted projections on Andre Roberson and Solomon Hill counted as 61st pick) - filtering out big misses(Every false prediction at least 15 slots wrong: Roberson, Hill, Nedovic, Goodwin) cleaned up mean: 2.962
DX.com: 4.766 - filtering out Goodwin, Nedovic, Hill: new mean: 3.444

variance
NBAdraft.net: 138 and after leaving out the same misses as in the mean calculation: 13.962
DX.com: 45,433 and 19 after cleaning up

So you can say that NBAdraft.net is considerably more inconsistent in picking the range of a player and they did more HUGE biffs and an equal amount of predictions very much off(more than 10 draft slots away)
Another thing that caught my mind is that DX sometimes had the team but was wrong on the pick they used(Predicting Andre Roberson to OKC with the 32nd instead of 26th, which was also OKC's) There were more of these kind of things but I'm too lazy to revisit it. Both services were comparably off on the lottery picks. If anything DX was slightly less off, but really we're talking inches here. But outside the lottery it becomes obvious that Givony is better connected with league sources than the guys running NBAdraft.net, whose performance really dropped, while Givony obviously had some insider infos he used in his final edition.
 
Hard to play half-court offense with no shooters. Especially against zone. Might wanna try Frankamp
 
BTP said:
So I did compare the performance of NBAdraft.net and draftexpress.com in 2013...

That's my result:

number of picks correct:
NBAdraft.net - 4
DX.com - 3
Bleacherreport - 1

number of predictions close by 2 places(e.g. predicted 3, picked 1 through 5)
NBAdraft.net - 12
DX.com - 12
Bleacherreport - 9

mean error per prediction(in draft slots)
NBAdraft.net: 6.5333(undrafted projections on Andre Roberson and Solomon Hill counted as 61st pick) - filtering out big misses(Every false prediction at least 15 slots wrong: Roberson, Hill, Nedovic, Goodwin) cleaned up mean: 2.962
DX.com: 4.766 - filtering out Goodwin, Nedovic, Hill: new mean: 3.444

variance
NBAdraft.net: 138 and after leaving out the same misses as in the mean calculation: 13.962
DX.com: 45,433 and 19 after cleaning up

So you can say that NBAdraft.net is considerably more inconsistent in picking the range of a player and they did more HUGE biffs and an equal amount of predictions very much off(more than 10 draft slots away)
Another thing that caught my mind is that DX sometimes had the team but was wrong on the pick they used(Predicting Andre Roberson to OKC with the 32nd instead of 26th, which was also OKC's) There were more of these kind of things but I'm too lazy to revisit it. Both services were comparably off on the lottery picks. If anything DX was slightly less off, but really we're talking inches here. But outside the lottery it becomes obvious that Givony is better connected with league sources than the guys running NBAdraft.net, whose performance really dropped, while Givony obviously had some insider infos he used in his final edition.
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Thanks for this. I think my legit loathing of daftnet is more because of wild swings and players they have so incredibly out of common sense position that I feel like they're trolling.

BTP said:
Them playing vs a zone is so clueless. I wonder if the player can't do better or if Self doesn't care or trolls.
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I wish a zone was illegal. Soooooo boring. I love when UK is paying a team that likes to play man.
 
The zone is the biggest reason I can't get that in to college basketball. The game just turns into the offense passing the ball around the perimeter while the crowd shouts "ahhhhhhhhhhhh!" all in unison. Gets so boring for me.

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