Following potential 2014 draftees
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Only possible way when accepting it from me.
They were 6'5 with shoes at the hoop summit this spring. While at their age they may still grow, I'm not taking measurements for granted from someone affiliated with the NCAA. That organisation is more corrupt and has more angles than a Vietnamese police patrol.
So I'll go with 6'3.5 w/o shoes and 6'5 in high heels until draft measurements.
How high do you think are the chances that Young stays two years to polish his game and not fall low in lottery? I've been high on him since I saw him ball the first time.
His high school stats were impressive as well.
Wow.. 6'6 is legit size for a PG... If he's quick on his feet as well, he should be a pretty good defender at the point.
He won't be a defnsive liability. He has no major flaws to his game. Question is only how elite he will be as a cerebral floor general. I suspect he'll be a top 5 NBA pg within 5 years.
Top 5 is a lot to ask I think.
5 years from now 4 of the top 5 PGs are probably CP3, Westbrook, Rose and Irving. If he's the fifth he'd leave Wall, Williams(age 34, but I can imagine him developing post skills), Holiday and Steph Curry behind him. That's big shoes to fill. Lillard, Rubio and Rondo might be in conversation as well depending on how their careers develop.
Top 5'esque??
Was more just saying I think he becomes an elite PG and will enjoy an era that realized the PG drought after a few guys now are in their twilights.
While I don't see many PGs in their twilights when you think positive and expect guys to bounce back from injuries, I definately think Harrison and smart will blend right in.
LOL.. you've just demonstrated to me right there that getting into top 5 is a real possibility for Andrew Harrison:
- CP3 will be too old by then (what Billups is now IMO)
- Rubio - are you kidding me?
- Holiday - not elite
- Rondo - I'll reserve my comments since this is PKM's thread.
Top 5 will be:
1. Rose
2. Westbrook
3. Lillard
4. Steph Curry (big IF because of his injury)
5. Wall (I'm still not SOLD)
So I don't think sneaking into that 4-5 spot would be THAT hard... IMO.
I don't know if we learn different English in Germany and New Zealand, but I clearly wrote that I see CP3, Westbrook, Rose and Irving as a lock to be top5 PGs and the rest are in the convo on the outside looking in right now.
You only criticized Cp3. And I say CP3 is much more than only his quickness to play passing lanes and beating his defender in halfcourt.
Tony Parker is 31 right now. He's got way more wear and tear over his career than Paul will probably have at that age. He's still top5 and one of the fastest in the league. Why shouldn't Paul stay right there? Nash was also in that category until he was 35. I think you're heavily underrating CP3.
So you don't think Irving who has a more versatile offense than Rose and is posting better numbers at the same age is not up there in his prime? Many already view him to be Top5 right now(although that's not me yet). He has less upside to fill out as a scorer, since he's already up there, he might decide to spend his time and improve defense and passing. I don't even wanna think about if that's happening and he finally manages to stay healthy w/o minor injuries. That thought causes havoc to my brain.
I don't think Lillard will have much more room to grow. He's 23. He'll improve a little, but noch much more if you ask me. He'll get more experienced and stuff, but he's not yet an efficient scorer and a horrible defender. So he has to fix these two points first.
Curry is a great shooter, but I'll wait to see if he really can stay healthy for more than one season and if teams don't manage to take away good looks.
Holiday is already a good PnR defender, he's a good and willing passer,plus having teammates who can play will also help his offense long term. I think he's got a bigger chance than Lillard to crack the top5.
Wall for me is the same as Curry. He's got to stay healthy before I count him in. Plus developing a jumper wouldn't hurt. Making the playoffs is a must as well before I even talk about him.
With Rubio he's an elite defender and passer. I wanna see what he can do this year after coming back from his ACL tear before I rule him out.
Rondo is an elite passer, defender and his offense is slowly evolving(Look at his midrange shotcharts from last season). I expect a lot of his qualities to translate well into his thirties and that's why I don't rule him out as well.
TLDR, let's just agree to disagree.
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