U actually think the Jazz would trade Favors for either of those players. Wow!!
That's not even close to the same situation. Favors wasn't even near as established as he is now. Also we are talking about Wiggins.
Lol. No. Your wild assertions are becoming out of control
Ummm. Ok. U do realize we were winning at a 50+ wins total after the Kanter trade and Exum being upgraded to our full time starter.
We are a team that is coming off a long rebuild process. U really expect us to contend in year one of making the playoffs?
Lol. U are on fire tonight. Porz is and probably will never be on Favors level offensively. And Favors will be even more improved this coming year. He will probably be a knockdown shooter from 20 and he wants to add a three point shot from what I hear.
I would say our need is simply shooting.I don't think it's that likely that the jazz will trade up, if there is a trade it will be trading down and picking up a few pieces. The Jazz are in a prime area where we don't have a need and we can just pick the best prospect on the board.
I would say our need is simply shooting.
I think it's kind of insane to try to break up what we've stumbled upon in the last season, but just for the fun of it...Even considering trading Favors for any prospect in this draft other than Towns is absurd. The only reason you even consider that trade (so long as it's straight up or only requires including an additional minor asset or 2) is because Towns has similar or better 2-way potential, is younger, & is cheaper/cost-controlled longer (although I would only do so if we were also able to make a similar deal involving Hayward). Neither of those things are likely to happen, but I believe that it touches on an important subject.
Right now we have a core that consists of Exum, Hood, Burks, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert. Out of that group Hood, Burks, Favors, & Gobert are all under contract for at least 3 years & ready to contribute now. Hayward is obviously ready to contribute but able to leave in 2 years, while Exum is cost controlled for several years but still likely a year or 2 away from being ready to contribute.
Imo, this means that there are 3 directions in which we can go:
1. We can stay on our current path, hope Exum develops quick enough to retain Hayward, & use the upcoming salary increase in order to keep our core together & build around it.
2. We can trade Exum for a starting caliber player who is ready to contribute (or add a starting caliber PG by other means, while benching Exum), add veterans to help us win in the short-term, & attempt to speed up the process of becoming legitimate contenders in order to retain Hayward.
3. We can trade Hayward for prospects/future draft picks, focus on the long-term, & continue to develop & add to our core of young, cost controlled players.
The 1st seems to be the safest & most likely option of the 3, but I think that it's something that warrants a discussion/consideration. I'm not suggesting that we completely overhaul the roster, I just believe that we are at somewhat of a crossroad in which we need to either prioritize the long-term, short-term, or attempt to balance the 2 (which isn't always the best option as doing so can lead to an unbalanced roster). Personally, I would probably hold on to both for now, attempt to upgrade Burks with an elite offensive prospect, & try to put the team in a position to win next year by filling our holes (backup PG & C) with young veterans. If we don't appear playoff bound by the trade-deadline next year, I would seriously consider moving Hayward (if the right deal were to present itself) so as to not risk limiting his value when he is essentially a FA-to-be in a year or losing him for nothing.
Hows about trying to swap 12 for 13 whilst finagling Bogdan Bogdanovic from Pheonix for lesser assets??? (Who wont come to the NBA for another 2 seasons til his rookie scale is up)
Dude shot 39% from 3 this year including;
Tier 4 typically is late-lottery to mid-first-round selections in a normal draft -- selections 10 through 20. This year, that tier is roughly 9-19 on our Big Board. Lots of talented players in this tier project to be starters or high-level rotation players.
Here, even the consensus in tiers starts to break down.
Guys really are all over the place. Booker, Kaminsky, Lyles and Turner each scored a few votes for Tier 3. Payne also picked up a Tier 3 vote. Still, the majority of teams had them ranked in Tier 4. Oubre, Grant and Looney had some Tier 5 votes, but most of their votes were in Tier 4.
Why are you so hung up on this fantasy? It doesn't make sense and it's not happening. Favors has more value than this. Crazy that people on this board want to et rid of him for a euro who is far from a sure thing.
https://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Cedi-Osman-7133/
Hey guys, here is someone for your second round pick, there is a new scouting report of him added 2 days ago. Energetic style of play, needs to improve his shooting but high BB-IQ, good defender and always hustling. Pick him an let him develop 2 more years in Turkey. He impressed everyone in Europe by being one of the youngest players in Euroleague getting so many minutes against the best competition in Europe. DX rank him right now at 44, the Jazz should get him with the 42nd pick if he is available right there (I doubt it).
Plus we still had Kanter.That's not even close to the same situation. Favors wasn't even near as established as he is now.
Unless it's a small move like flopping picks with Miami to get in front of Indiana for Turner.I don't think it's that likely that the jazz will trade up.
Wow, I was not too familiar with McCullough until now. His highlights look really good. I like his length and athletic fluid game.
I have so many players I like in this draft. I hope we are able to get a 2nd first round pick.
Hezonja vs Real Madrid 18 pts breakdown
https://www.draftexpress.com/articl...ayoff-Finals-Performance-Video-Analysis-5116/
I was listening to one of Locke's podcasts from this week and he mentioned that the 11-15 draft position has the least amount of all stars and rotation players, which was news to me. The reason makes sense, since the people from 11-15 are in the tier below the more "sure things," so teams try to go for home run high upside picks and miss. Therefore, people who are drafted 15 and below have more of a chance to be starters and rotation players.
Here are the people in that group that I think have good, long careers: Portis, Grant, Looney (projected 20 by DX), RHJ, McCullough, Wright.
Also, generally 2 people in the top 10 bust. This may make me look stupid later, but I think Winslow is going to bust. He played best at Duke as a small-ball 4, and I don't think he is big enough for that in the NBA, and depending on what team he goes to he probably won't play the 4 much. I also think his high 3pt% is probably flukey, and if it is, that is big time trouble for him. His mechanics look off and his free throw shooting is poor, and I don't think he can shoot off the dribble. I think he bullies his way inside and he won't be able to do that at the next level. Disclaimer: I'm a bit biased against Duke players
I don't necessarily think D'Angelo Russell will bust, but I don't think he will be an elite 3 point shooter in the NBA, and I worry about his defense and athleticism. I guess I'm not nearly as high on him as others are. I definitely wouldn't trade Favors for him.
I agree that the jazz won't make that trade..... I wouldn't do that trade either btw.Fair enough, But I do think its a bad trade for the Jazz and I do think the FO would want nothing to do with that trade either. I could see us moving up in the draft but not with one of our starters. Come draft day if someone in one of the players Jazz have in Tier 1 or Tier 2 falls a few picks then maybe we cash in lots of draft picks, stashed players (not worth much right now) and maybe Burks or one of the scrubs on the end of the bench gets traded to move up.
Seems much more likely we trade our pick for a player than a player for a pick. FO has said they dont really want more rookies and had too many last year.
... if you trade any of our core pieces, you have to trade Hayward too. I think he will just leave when his contract expires if you take away his ability to compete during his current contract and make him go through another rebuild.