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KqWIN said:
Traore has some massive games….his playoff game last year made me think he could be in the mix for top 3 before the season. But he also has so many stinkers and he’s continued to be inconsistent.

I remember when people were hyping JHS because he had some massive games. There was this idea that a player’s peak meant more. Obviously didn’t work out for JHS, but is there anyone that still subscribes to that theory?
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I have thought that before. I think I still kind of do. The highs can show you what a player is capable of if developed to their maximum potential. Or in other words the highs can give you a glimpse of their ceiling.
All information is important though, so I'm not sure I would say highs mean more.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It would have to be PG + Harper for Lauri?

It's hard to see that deal happening. I'm not sure Lauri is worth the 2nd overall pick, especially not in a vacuum. Philly would really have to believe in Embiid staying healthy (and think PG is completely cooked) to make that kind of deal. I think they would ask Utah to add something.
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I would do that.
 
I wonder what Traore would have looked like I had he been playing in Egor’s spot at BYU. We talk about bad college situations all the time, but BYU was as good as it gets for a playmaking guard.
 
Is this the deepest international class of the past 5 years?

  • VJ Edgecombe (Bahamas)
  • Kasparas (Lithuania)
  • Khaman Malauch (South Sudan)
  • Egor Demin (Russia)
  • Nolan Traore (France)
  • Noa Essengue (France)
  • Ben Saraf (Israel)
  • Noah Penda (France)
  • Hugo Gonzalez (Spain)
  • Hansen Yang (Spain)
  • Dame Sarr (Italy)
  • Maine Raynaud (France)
  • Joan Beringer (France)

All these players have potential to go in the first rounder.

Then you have some sleepers who could rise like:

  • Neoklis Avdalas
  • Bogojlub Markovic
  • Rocco Zikarsky
  • Alex Toohey
  • Michael Ruzic
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Is this the deepest international class of the past 5 years?

  • VJ Edgecombe (Bahamas)
  • Kasparas (Lithuania)
  • Khaman Malauch (South Sudan)
  • Egor Demin (Russia)
  • Nolan Traore (France)
  • Noa Essengue (France)
  • Ben Saraf (Israel)
  • Noah Penda (France)
  • Hugo Gonzalez (Spain)
  • Hansen Yang (Spain)
  • Dame Sarr (Italy)
  • Maine Raynaud (France)
  • Joan Beringer (France)

All these players have potential to go in the first rounder.

Then you have some sleepers who could rise like:

  • Neoklis Avdalas
  • Bogojlub Markovic
  • Rocco Zikarsky
  • Alex Toohey
  • Michael Ruzic
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It doesn't feel like it as much because the top international guys played in the NCAA.

I'm guessing the Yang is from Spain is a typo.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
www.espn.com

French center Beringer to enter NBA draft

French center Joan Beringer, a projected top-20 pick, will enter the 2025 NBA draft, he told ESPN Friday.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Oh and he officially declared for the draft.

Also Beringer claims he is 6'11 without shoes in the article. DX says his wingspan is 7'5. That puts him a good deal bigger than his most common comp, Daniel Gafford. 2nd youngest player in the draft. Going to grow into his frame well.
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I think Beringer is my top guy for #21 unless something crazy happens and an obvious lottery guy is still sitting there.
 
Powell is a smaller, poor man’s Bryant….but you could already say Bryant is a poor man’s 3&D prospect. I probably won’t find 30 guys I really like this year, so he could be a first rounder based on that.

64 FT% and low 3FG volume makes him a really bad shooting prospect. I’m not fooled by his 38%.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Is this the deepest international class of the past 5 years?

  • VJ Edgecombe (Bahamas)
  • Kasparas (Lithuania)
  • Khaman Malauch (South Sudan)
  • Egor Demin (Russia)
  • Nolan Traore (France)
  • Noa Essengue (France)
  • Ben Saraf (Israel)
  • Noah Penda (France)
  • Hugo Gonzalez (Spain)
  • Hansen Yang (Spain)
  • Dame Sarr (Italy)
  • Maine Raynaud (France)
  • Joan Beringer (France)

All these players have potential to go in the first rounder.

Then you have some sleepers who could rise like:

  • Neoklis Avdalas
  • Bogojlub Markovic
  • Rocco Zikarsky
  • Alex Toohey
  • Michael Ruzic
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Sarr is out, but Riley and Condon could also be added to this list.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Wow, the second round this year could be epically bad.
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Which is fine, because the Jazz don’t need to hit on those picks. . . but every guy that comes back for NIL just makes the depth of the next draft that much better. I’m hoping it’s stocked to the brim in 2027 when the Jazz have 3 picks to play with (the Lakers pick and the best two of their own pick, Minnesota and Cleveland.) If the Jazz are looking to build some depth or make a decent trade after tanking. . . that will be the new window to work with.
 
I was thinking about how NIL might actually help the NBA by giving guys more time to develop before decisions need to be made, having more European players taking the guaranteed money and competing here in the US (even if just for a year or two) and improving the depth of each draft. If teams are hitting on more picks consistently, it makes for a better product - even if the star players aren’t being spread out as much as we’d like them to be.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I was thinking about how NIL might actually help the NBA by giving guys more time to develop before decisions need to be made, having more European players taking the guaranteed money and competing here in the US (even if just for a year or two) and improving the depth of each draft. If teams are hitting on more picks consistently, it makes for a better product - even if the star players aren’t being spread out as much as we’d like them to be.
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Eventually I think it will. You'll be seeing a lot of high quality 23+ year olds who are extra ready ton contribute right away and the younger prospects that were never good enough will have been weeded out. But the next couple years will be a little skimpy as guys use up all their eligibility.
 
Coach Ellis said:
Which is fine, because the Jazz don’t need to hit on those picks. . . but every guy that comes back for NIL just makes the depth of the next draft that much better. I’m hoping it’s stocked to the brim in 2027 when the Jazz have 3 picks to play with (the Lakers pick and the best two of their own pick, Minnesota and Cleveland.) If the Jazz are looking to build some depth or make a decent trade after tanking. . . that will be the new window to work with.
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Good points. Hurts us in the short run, but is a good thing in the long run.
 
The NBA released the 75 players attending the draft combine yesterday. A name that's missing is a 7 foot Russian Center from Clemson. He reminds me of Quenten Post who is in the Dubs playoff rotation as a rookie. When Clemson played Duke he was the player of the game in a Clemson win. I know every dog has their day but he outplayed all the Duke thoroughbreds on that day and his team won. I realize the guy has rather modest stats and is older but if he outplays the No. 1 pick in the draft there might be something here.
 
homeytennis said:
The NBA released the 75 players attending the draft combine yesterday. A name that's missing is a 7 foot Russian Center from Clemson. He reminds me of Quenten Post who is in the Dubs playoff rotation as a rookie. When Clemson played Duke he was the player of the game in a Clemson win. I know every dog has their day but he outplayed all the Duke thoroughbreds on that day and his team won. I realize the guy has rather modest stats and is older but if he outplays the No. 1 pick in the draft there might be something here.
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He reminds me of Viktor Lakhin.
 
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